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Verizon: The L-Shaped Trajectory No Adjusted Metric Can Hide

From early 2020 to mid-2025, Verizon’s stock has declined from approximately $60 to $41, a ~30% drop over five years. The performance has followed a clear L-shaped pattern: a sharp decline, followed by prolonged stagnation.

Key Drivers:
• $45B+ investment in C-band spectrum (2021) has produced limited revenue impact.
• Postpaid phone subscriber losses have persisted across multiple quarters.
• Environmental liabilities tied to legacy lead-sheathed cables have added legal and reputational risk.
• Rising interest rates and ongoing capex continue to pressure free cash flow.
• A dividend yield near 7% remains the stock’s primary support — not growth.

What to Watch Next:

Verizon’s upcoming earnings will be revealing. As in prior quarters, expect a focus on cost controls, non-GAAP metrics, and capital allocation optics. But the broader market has already priced in the story:
Absent real growth, financial engineering alone won’t move the needle.

If this quarter leans on narrative over fundamentals, we’re not looking at a turnaround — we’re looking at another chapter in Alice in Wonderland.

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Post ID: @OP+1k08a42ss

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Let’s call it what it is: Verizon hasn’t recovered—it’s flatlined.

Since the 2020 drop, VZ has followed the classic L-shaped trajectory: a hard fall, followed by a long, uninspiring drift sideways. No bounce. No breakout. Just stagnation in slow motion.

Yet analysts keep slapping “Buy” ratings on it. Why? Because they’re rating the dividend, not the business.

Meanwhile:
• Postpaid subscriber losses keep piling up.
• 5G investments are capital-intensive with minimal payoff.
• Leadership lacks a growth narrative and plays it painfully safe.
• Fiber lags competitors. Innovation is MIA.
• That juicy dividend? It’s not a reward. It’s a distraction.

The market has figured it out—analysts haven’t.
Verizon isn’t misunderstood. It’s mispositioned, mismanaged, and missing momentum.

If this is recovery, it’s one no investor wants to live through.

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Post ID: @hq+1k08a42ss

My wife and I had two paid off phones on VZW post-paid plans. Last year my "loyalty discount" (20+ year customer) disappeared from our account. The bill went above $170/mo. I asked the chatbots for a bill discount and got nowhere. So I switched to Visible and we're paying $70/mo for the same service.

VZW customer service and billing strategy is so d-mb that they got me to spend a few hours figuring out that VZW will sell me the same service for $1,200 less per year.

A few lessons here: (1) VZ business strategy is a joke and (2) if you can afford to buy a phone outright there is no real difference between VZ's "premium" post-paid product and it's pre-paid product. The customer service will be non-existent, regardless.

VZ destroying its "premium" perception in the market will be its financial ruin. If you aren't selling a luxury, you're selling a commodity. There are no profits peddling commodities.

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Post ID: @en+1k08a42ss

Take a look at the rest of the world and the stocks across the board. VZ is not on its own and money has gone into Pharma, Military production and other growth areas. Fuelling wars around has its cost on bread and butter stocks like carriers unfortunately.

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Post ID: @bf+1k08a42ss

Hans the Euro Socialist with everyone else's money but his own. Hmmm like most Socialists!

Anyway, when he 'democratised' The Network and swapped the cream of the crop post paid customers for sketchy pre-paid customers and allowed a Mr. Smith Comes 2 The Verizon Network to rent our once fabled Network to even our biggest wireline cable competitors - that's when the sellside analysts began changing their models.

The company's quality of cash flow just ain't what it used to be, and that is what both the stock price and dividend depend on.

I mean what's up with that? I just got an email from my cable company offering me a 'Wireless deal' as good or better than what I am paying the company.

Who thinks this stuff up?

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