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Verizon’s Earnings Mirage: Sub-$40 Shakeout, $42 Head-Fake?

Wall Street still wants to believe in Verizon. The dividend yield looks juicy. The talking points are scripted: “5G monetization,” “broadband growth,” “strong cash flow.” But if you’ve watched this game long enough, you know exactly what’s coming.

Here’s the likely playbook for Q2 2025 earnings:

🔻 Before the Call: Drift Below $40

The market’s already signaling unease. Telecom fundamentals are stagnant. Add in some macro pressure (rate volatility, muted consumer spending), and Verizon’s stock struggles to hold $40. Options activity around the $40 strike? It’s not random — it’s hedged pessimism.

Expect a slow bleed toward $39.50–$39.80 before the call.

🧮 Earnings Day: The Financial Engineering Kicks In

Verizon has mastered the art of EPS cosmetics:
• “One-time” charges quietly excluded
• Deferred capex dressed up as margin strength
• Subscriber categories shuffled to flatter net add metrics
• Free cash flow repackaged to keep dividend bulls calm

Don’t be surprised if they post a “clean” $1.19 EPS beat and headline wireless revenue growth around 2.5%. Sprinkle in some buzzwords (AI, efficiency, automation), and voila — the illusion is complete.

🚀 Post-Earnings: Spike to $42… Then Plateau

The reaction? Likely a sharp relief rally. Short covering. Dividend chasers rushing in. The narrative will briefly overpower the reality. We’ll probably see a pop to $41.80–$42.20.

But then what?

🪙 Reality Reasserts Itself

Because here’s what doesn’t change:
• Growth is slow and capital-intensive
• Debt is mounting — and rates aren’t dropping fast enough
• Churn is sticky, ARPU is flat, and premium 5G pricing isn’t landing

This is a company that’s spending heavily just to stay in place. A well-orchestrated earnings beat won’t hide that for long.

Bottom Line:
This is not a comeback. It’s a head-fake. If you’re trading VZ, fine — play the bounce. But if you’re investing on narrative alone, don’t confuse short-term optics for long-term health.

The numbers might look good on paper. But sometimes the story between the lines says more.

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He is not doing a very good job then. Dividends are based on a good quality of earnings leading to excess free cash flow. The company is mostly run by foreign born people who do not understand US corporate culture or the needs of US telecom customers.

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Post ID: @11x+1k0e7t59m

@ve He is getting paid to make sure a dividend is paid every quarter. Plain and simple.

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Post ID: @11q+1k0e7t59m

@t3
At some point, someone needs to ask: is Hans getting paid to grow a business or manage its decline?

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Post ID: @ve+1k0e7t59m

@st

Was wrong about Hans.
Despite the warning signs at Ericsson, I thought maybe—just maybe—he’d bring the urgency Verizon needed to leap forward.

Instead, we got a CEO fluent in transformation slogans, allergic to execution.
The only thing that scaled was the narrative.

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Post ID: @t3+1k0e7t59m

@bn

It was laid out on Friday — the drift below $40, the financial engineering to hit the headline number, the pop to $42.
And here we are. No magic. Just pattern recognition.

But because the post was structured and didn’t rely on emojis or blind optimism, someone yells “ChatGPT!” as if thinking critically disqualifies you from having a real job.

Meanwhile, the real copy-paste came from the earnings call:

“Disciplined execution…”
“Momentum across key segments…”
“Proud of our performance…”

Same script, different quarter.
No strategy, just stall tactics with a press release.

Call it AI if it helps you sleep at night —
but some of us still use our own brain. 😘

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Post ID: @st+1k0e7t59m

@bn

Yep, definitely AI. It’s not like anyone here could possibly notice Verizon pads net adds with watches and tablets every quarter or strips out half their expenses to “beat” by a penny.

Must be ChatGPT — because critical thinking clearly isn’t allowed on this site.

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Post ID: @gb+1k0e7t59m

@bn
If AI can break down Verizon’s rinse-and-repeat earnings theater better than PR or Hans himself, maybe we’re asking the wrong question. The real concern isn’t who’s writing — it’s who’s still listening.

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Post ID: @c8+1k0e7t59m

@az saw a TMo guy with a tee shirt on yesterday at the grocery store that read:
"TMobile kicks VZ azzzz"

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Post ID: @c4+1k0e7t59m

Someone is using chatGPT or another AI model to write these essays....😜

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Post ID: @bn+1k0e7t59m

@az

Only if the palace still has a king.
Hans is playing maestro to an empty orchestra—composing confidence while the musicians pack up.
Let’s see what tune Q2 tries to play this time.

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Post ID: @be+1k0e7t59m

@az I have my suspicions. A former Verizon investor relations team executive has very similar writing style on LinkedIn. Emojis and all.

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Post ID: @b7+1k0e7t59m

D---, who writes these? Impressive. Sounds like either a well placed insider or a sophisticated Tmo campaign. Like a slow-mo mystery novel unfolding. Maybe next chapter will be "palace intrigue".

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Post ID: @az+1k0e7t59m

Most of this board and executive team have to go. I can't think of a group of people that has worked so hard to destroy shareholder value. There is absolutely nothing that they do right. Nothing!

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