Thread regarding Bank of America layoffs

The brighter undergrads are not sticking around...

Lets face it, most of these new undergrads are awful. I dont know what happened to the education system over the past 10 years but these new hires are not taking notes and do not retain much. The best new hires as of late have actually, suprisingly, been those with no higher education and relevant work experience.

There are, however, a few exceptions to this. Every now and then we'll get fresh undergrad who's got those above average qualities we saw around 15 years ago. He-l, that was the whole reason we sought them out was it not? So that we could get a fresh and dynamic perspective from talented and highly motived undergrads.

Thing is, those few, i'd ballpark about 1 in 10, dont stay very long. With baffling consistency they're out in the first 1-4 months. They'll come in and start ki-ling it, setting a higher standard of excellence, and then they're gone, usually without much notice.

I have a few theories for this. One is the culture we have fostered which is like a pseudo sorrority (with men in it too) wherin being too excellent is no good without giving most, if not all credit to someone else with tenure. There are managers who have thrived on this over the years and seem like all-star players to everyone by cleverly tapping into the uptake of the improvements brought about by others and presenting it as their own. Don't donate to these people as a newbie and you'll soon find out what it means to be thrown under the bus.

Another theory is technology. University students are coming out of an enviornment where a lot the latest technology is being leveraged, both hardware and software. They come to BOFA and see these dated workstation setups which run slower than anything they have ever used by a country mile. No ipads, no touchscreens, and the cheapest pariphreals money can buy - its like stepping into a retirement home and using grandmas computer.

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I am surprised to hear that the so-called "BofA" of Today (which bears no resemblance whatsoever to the pre-NB "real" BofA) even attracts Top Undergrads - or Top anyone else -- these days.

Really? I used to be proud to work here, but now I hide the logo on my bag.

It's embarrassing and the buffoons in charge are even more embarrassing.

Just a pay check to get to Age 59.5 to retire at this point.... sad.

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Post ID: @5tg+1k3rdfqyw

Funny about the girls club comment. I remember when a new D&I group was created in HR and the executive, a woman, proceeded to hire 23 women, and 0 men, under her to fill her team. Sad thing is she got away with creating a team that was anything but inclusive.

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Post ID: @fz+1k3rdfqyw

Do we all recognize that outside of client facing roles, this place has become a girl’s club? So many orgs are 70+ % women and they only hire women…

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Post ID: @fn+1k3rdfqyw

ok, 14 years here. interned at BoA and started full time right out of undergrad. top of my class, still shine like a star. I don't identify with some of your comments about BoA, but technology one is spot on. I have had a financially lustrous career here with significant bumps and promotions over the years - but that is because I am in NYC and in front office. I do agree the new undergrads are lacking in many areas that millennials like me present(ed) well in. Every day for 14 years I go to work and am shocked the bank is still standing given how messed up the systems and data are. I could be doing more to make MD but to be honest, I don't want to manage people and I don't want to work when I'm on vacation so I'll probably stay director until I eventually move to a competitor...after sabbatical of course.

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Post ID: @ee+1k3rdfqyw

I totally agree with this piece of your post

"There are managers who have thrived on this over the years and seem like all-star players to everyone by cleverly tapping into the uptake of the improvements brought about by others and presenting it as their own. Don't donate to these people as a newbie and you'll soon find out what it means to be thrown under the bus."

Bank of America has become an environment where the managers who are knowledgeable, engaged and take the time to empower their associates (including giving others credit where it is due) swiftly get moved aside for those who fake it, present others ideas and take (and receive) credit for it. It doesn't take long to identify how out of touch many managers are within the firm, or how much of a sorority many areas have become.

Advantage opportunities no longer go to those who put in the time, and sacrifice, to earn them. They now go to the select few chosen typically by the executive to not outshine them, abler to fake being competent and are controllable.

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Post ID: @ae+1k3rdfqyw

Thats enough time to realize they wont get a pay raise. There is absolutely no career pathing or career opportunities beyond current role.

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