I'm asking because I am on it but shouldn't be. Lots of irons in the fire and critical stuff.
This LR makes no sense. How can I have so much to do and be laid off?????? There isn't anyone that can pick this work up fast enough.
Yes, I know I'm on it for sure. Some managers have been telling their people.
Anyone who trains their replacement has no honor or self respect.
my "goals" became more and more like busy work and less and less challenging.
This describes my last 3 months. Busy work. Plus my manager talked to me about the talent portal and wanted to know what interests I had outside my current role. All tell-tale signs. Yet I ask my manager if I am on a list and he says he has no idea. He might not know 100%, but he probably ID'd me as a target.
We'll see on Monday.
not sure what you are on. Unless there is a special arrangement (like volunteer to be on to exchange a smooth transition. ) or you are determine to try your best to stay or come back, no one is going to work the same. what are they going to do? Fire them again?
Nope they send you home and that is it. If you want to stay employed till March then those are the rules.
If you decide to stay till Feb/March they can't disconnect you from the network, they still >need to pay you and you would still be required to do or finish any given work during >this time. The next months till your last date with the company should be no different >than any regular months, I think it is jut the managers that must make sure you do not >cause any problems and you do not get work that stretches beyond your last day and >can't be completed by others in your absence
not sure what you are on. Unless there is a special arrangement (like volunteer to be on to exchange a smooth transition. ) or you are determine to try your best to stay or come back, no one is going to work the same. what are they going to do? Fire them again?
The day I got the call and was told, I stopped all work from that moment forward.. I mean what are they going to do??
I volunteered to be laid off. Part of the deal was that I would continue to work until February, so that my current project wouldn't be harmed. So should you continue to work after the RIF - well it depends on your circumstances.
Things changed since then, most of us work from home, there is SSO everywhere so no issues with passwords to systems or anything.
Your experience seems to be old and irrelevant
If you decide to stay till Feb/March they can't disconnect you from the network, they still need to pay you and you would still be required to do or finish any given work during this time. The next months till your last date with the company should be no different than any regular months, I think it is jut the managers that must make sure you do not cause any problems and you do not get work that stretches beyond your last day and can't be completed by others in your absence
Call me stupid, but like a horse that will run back into a burning barn, I've come back to Cisco multiple times.
Once you are notified, you are no longer responsible for performing any tasks. As @oyz+1k5aplWw said, you may want to be willing to spend a little time doing a graceful handoff to anyone who's remaining if any, but beyond that, your "job" is to look for the next job, be it internal or otherwise.
The first time, I was on a PIP before Cisco started doing frequent LR's. There'd only been 2 layoff's a Cisco before I joined, and PIP's were the way that Cisco managed to reduce its head count by 5% every year to let go of the bottom 5%. If you got crosswise with a manager or director, like I did, you got put into the bottom 5% and then managed out via a PIP where your "goals" got progressively harder and more unreasonable until they could fire you. Then Cisco announced its first big Early Retirement followed by a "workforce reduction" or WFR. I was currently on a PIP and when the WFR was announced, suddenly my "goals" became more and more like busy work and less and less challenging. That was my "sign" that I was going to be let go. When I got my 1:1 invite, he read the script and told me to go home for the rest of the day. He said I was free to keep my laptop & use the Internet, printers, fax machines, etc. as much as I needed, but asked that I use a different building than ours and to clean out my desk that night after everyone had left. He didn't realize that I'd come in and cleaned out my desk within the hour of receiving his 1:1 request. He also told me that all of my accesses for my job role were disabled. I basically had email and Jabber and that was it. I didn't do diddly. I didn't bother to document anything, mainly because I'd already documented my stuff months/yrs ago. I didn't have anything to hand off, again, mainly because I'd been doing busy work for the past 3 months after the announcement was made in Apr and I was notified in Aug.
The second time, it was the first time that Cisco made the announcement during the year-end earnings call and managers sent out the 1:1 invites within the hour after the earnings call ending. Again, I cleaned out my desk that night, and after the 1:1 call, the manager had someone on my team take me out to lunch on his corporate card. We spent an hour identifying accounts & mailers that I owned that needed to be transferred, what those accounts' passwords were (or where they were documented) and what needed to be updated when the passwords were changed, where my documentation was on the wiki, and we enjoyed a big a$$ lunch. After that, I did nothing until I was terminated. It was a great team, and not toxic like the first team had become, so I'd told a few people that they could reach out to me w/ questions but none of them did. I know they appreciated it, but they were able to use the documentation I'd left behind to handle it.
I stopped working 19 years ago
Please take care of yourself. It’s a difficult situation, know that you will be okay. You will not be expected to work.
Back in the days when I was still at Cisco, a member of my team got LRed and my manager actually was trying to pressure him to complete tasks before his final day.
That is a question that I have too. You could leave asap and take all the money or stay and try to find a job, internal or not.
However if they make your like a horse (as they have done so far) how are you going to have time to prepare yourself for interviews and for the market. Staying too long with Cisco pushes you in a niche of the market in the sense that in today's market you need to know various technologies AND other vendors equipment so you to need some prep time
I stopped working on Nov 16th when Chuckie made the announcement that an LR will take place on Dec 12. My mgr who's a great buddy of mine told me that our entire team will be on the chopping block including himself. He said I should just do the bare minimum or whatever.
F**ck no you aren’t expected to work. If you intend on finding another role within Cisco, then it would be prudent to do whatever handoff calls are needed to that you don’t burn bridges. But if you are planning to leave, all that work isn’t your problem anymore. Supposedly your area is not “an area of investment”, so it shouldn’t matter if the work is completed or not. It’s the ELTs problem now.