Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

HR Mind Games Getting Old

The constant sprinkling of RTO letters and little groups of layoffs paired with zero information is exhausting.

They should just do it and get it over with. All this game playing just motivates workers to stay out of fear of the job market or out of spite to get all the money they’re owed.


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@ec

Divestiture of their DTV and TW purchases which is included in the 280K employee figure.

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Post ID: @et+1k6ngx4mv

@e2. Divestiture occurred in 1984. SBC acquired ATT in 2005 when their (ATT's) headcount was around 45,000. SBC had approximately 164,000 employees at that time. Those combined numbers represented the ATT that was the workforce of the latest iteration of ATT. That would have been about 209,000 employees.
Divestiture has nothing to do what began roughly 10 years after SBC bought the old ATT in 2005; meaning: Stephenson announcing in 2015 that the workforce would be reduced at a minimum by 30%.

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Post ID: @ec+1k6ngx4mv

Don't hate the playa, hate the game!

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Post ID: @e9+1k6ngx4mv

"but if they keep the layoff numbers under a certain level they avoid WARN notices"

Bingo -- The WARN act needs to be amended to be a cumulative number, and also include a hiring aspect to it.

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Post ID: @e3+1k6ngx4mv

" Since 2017, there have been 140,000 people cut from the payroll."

Your number includes divestiture of the failed corporate acquisitions. Not a true representation of how many job cuts at the current AT&T.

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Post ID: @e2+1k6ngx4mv

RTO letters?

You must not be in a core location. You best be moving.

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Post ID: @dh+1k6ngx4mv

Brain wash technique #1: Establish your dominance. Make sure that the subject understands that they have no control over their destiny.

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Post ID: @be+1k6ngx4mv

The workforce cuts have been dramatic and surgical. Since 2017, there have been 140,000 people cut from the payroll. I dont know how much faster you'd prefer than that! We had 280,000 people globally in 2015. Earlier this year the number was 139,000.

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Post ID: @bc+1k6ngx4mv

“ Where were you 10 years ago when Randall Stephenson announced that the company would downsize by 30% at least. He said it in 2015.”

That’s a fact. Although, you sound like a bit of an apologist for the C suite & HR. Neither “deserve” any quarter.

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Post ID: @ax+1k6ngx4mv

Where were you 10 years ago when Randall Stephenson announced that the company would downsize by 30% at least. He said it in 2015. So now you think there's a mysterious, nefarious plan to reduce head count. Did you miss that townhall? I've observed reductions in some teams by 70% -80%.
You're not the first people to wring your hands and wonder if you're next in line. Just know that everyone eventually leaves either through downsizing or retirement. You should consider yourself under personal contract for only so long, and then your time is over. Done.

BTW HR is only the messenger. They've loss hundreds every year just like other teams.

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Post ID: @ak+1k6ngx4mv

@ac "Slow and steady gets the job done and keeps it on the down low."

Aww, how cute. Have you been around here for the last decade or so? This is never on the down low. What are you smoking? Slow and steady is a horrible strategy if you'd prefer to eventually have a positive culture. Rip band-aid off and move on.

PLEASE don't tell me you're in our HR or Corp Strategy orgs!!?? Actually you probably are therefore your terrible insights make sense.

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Post ID: @ag+1k6ngx4mv

No company can do it all at once because then the deniers of racism against whites will have no defense of the indefensible. Stand meek and silent if you must, but even you know that it’s true. It’s an all out culture transformation to show the door to as many as “those people” as they can before they get back to 3 day RTO. Slow and steady gets the job done and keeps it on the down low. Pull the reports. Data never lies when you throw out the red herrings.

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Post ID: @ac+1k6ngx4mv

True, but if they keep the layoff numbers under a certain level they avoid WARN notices, which brings red flags and unwanted attention. The company is playing the laws to their advantage, and we sure as He-l know they don’t care about us! Same goes locations during layoffs. They sprinkle some here and some there to avoid discrimination and hide behind the fact they are different locations and not age.

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Post ID: @a8+1k6ngx4mv

“ They should just do it and get it over with. All this game playing just motivates workers to stay out of fear of the job market or out of spite to get all the money they’re owed.”

Agree they should just do one big layoff and be done with the games. All this bs just makes me want to do nothing but look for another job (which is I’m sure what they want). The culture they are building is not an innovative one, it’s going to be a revolving door or talent in and out. Speaking of that was looking at the newest executive they hired for talent and development - so you hire an external candidate. Good way to signal your intentions to just replace workers you have. They won’t train anyone here or even allow them to get more certifications externally. I asked my boss about an AI cert the other day and got told no because of needs of the business. You’re kidding right? AI is all the rage right now.

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