Corporate Risk - I hear DF will do the calibration himself and they are mandated to give 20% “not meet”.
The only metrics DF office have common to all corporate risk employees is RTO and 8 hour data.
If this is the case , then I am sc--wed. (my RTO is okay, but my 8 hour is very low)
Managers use to enforce 9am to 3 pm in office expectations so that coverage for core hours. Remaining 2 hours is upto you.
@cm do you really need help??? The people that interpret 3 days in office as showing up abd leaving shortly thereafter are the exact reason they are forcing a monitored 8 hours in office and increasing to 4 days a week. You act like children you get more rules concept. Managers should be held accountable for also not complying they foster the rule breaking and allow their staff to get away with it which in return causes the honest emoloyees a headache
@ad its 8 hours in the office, period. Just do it and stop looking for excuses to justify why people that cheat the system should get away with it
@ad they are also monitoring "productive hours". They will monitor keystrokes to determine if you are "productive"
@cm not true MANY, as in THOUSANDS were fully remote prior to covid
@cm Mate I was full-time remote with a signed telecommute agreement for 5 years before covid even started, as was my entire team. Part of the reason you see so much bi--hing and moaning about WFH on the Wells Fargo board specifically, is because it wasn't something people just experienced for a little burst of time during covid. Wells had a significant number of people working in that context, successfully, for YEARS prior to the pandemic, with zero noise from the C-suite. Everyone did their jobs, worked in a setting that worked for them, and no one caught any friction about it. All the stuff that's been implemented to push people back to office, rug pulled what had been a settled situation for a long time. Combine that with the fact that people can transparently see the lack of value add, and management making it clear it's not for any real productivity need but directly motivated by trying to increase worker's misery in order to encourage attrition, and you've got a recipe for unending discontent. People are not going to shut up about WFH, ever.
@b8 this is the absolute correct response
@cm that's actually incorrect. Multiple teams/ people were remote pre covid, mine included. If there was a reason to come to the office, we'd go. Otherwise we were remote. And since there is no reason to be in the office as teams span across the country/world the only reason this micromanaging is occurring is to promote attrition.
So I’m confused and need some help. 3 “days” in the office was interpreted by people as only a few hours. Does the same apply to the two days that you worked from home? Would it be ok if you only stayed home for a few hours on those two days and spent the rest of the time in the office? If it’s not ok, then I don’t know why anyone thinks spending anything less than a full “day” in the office is acceptable. Nobody said you’re not doing work at home. I’m sure you are. But the company policy is to be in the office. Everyone was in the office 5 full days a week before Covid. Nobody spent only hours in the office. People are now used to the flexibility. It was great while it lasted and I am grateful for it, but let’s stop whining. If you want to work somewhere else, may I suggest JP Morgan which is back in the office 5 days a week.
Most people were not meeting that out the gate! They can’t fire or low rate everyone!
Just lay people and stop with the ridiculous never ending layoffs.
@aa this is one of my biggest problems with the 8 hour thing. They changed the policy in early October and gave people 0 notice the change was coming and the only communication about it has been from managers telling people they’re on the naughty list and are expected to be in the office for 8 hours on in-office days.
If we’re coffee badging or not meeting your RTO requirements, you are f*d. Budget your expenses and don’t expect a bonus.
They've been doing the bell curve for almost 5 years now. Unless your RTO average is less than 5, I wouldn't sweat it too much. If it is, that's on you. However, I wouldn't put much passed these guys to just do whatever they feel like on any given day.
@ad just wait until the activity reporting take hold. They can tell who is doing stuff and who isn’t.
@ae 100% agree. I would do the same.
TBH I would fully give up my bonus if I could get a signed, committed telecommute agreement from Wells in return. Would be worth the trade to me. The issue is its not just the money, its putting a "low performer" noose around your next. For better or worse,not making the right noises about RTO is enough to get you branded as not a team player at Wells
@a3 sorry, that doesn't even make sense. Just because you go home and work, doesn't mean you're not working 8 hours. Just like during covid, we all worked at home and still got the work done. Being inthe office doesn't mean you're working 8nhours, in fact, many aren't. They are playing a game of pool and going to the gym or getting coffee for 3 hours. I see it everyday. So just because someone leaves after being in the office to go home and finish out the day, doesn't mean they aren't working 8 hours.
it's only stealing if you didn't put in the hours, regardless of where you work. also, if exempt the hours shouldn't matter as long as the work is getting done. While I don't like being under a microscope i do my required days and hours in office, but also feel if they want to hold certain things against us then our executives need to send out an official communication and establish a specific policy.
This is where all the thieves pretend they didn't know they were stealing from the company when coffee badging the last two years even though the rest of us know they weren't doing a ####ing thing most of that time other than collecting an undeserved paycheck. Now they are crying about injustices and unfairness because their do nothing gravy trains drying up. Crawl back under your rocks where you belong.
20% don't get any bonus?
What makes these folks so powerful is that all those below them are yes men, not understanding that it’s a matter of time until it’s their turn to experience the same unfairness they made happen.when you pressure people to a breaking point it fires back. People need to understand that the power is in their hands. You are more valuable than a package, paycheck or any dollar sign. You bring value to the place not the opposite. Stop leaning in and allowing injustice to happen, have you ever tried to stand up for the tyrants? They only continue to do what they do because no one says no, everyone is a yesman, a chicken, scared. They make you lose respect for your humanity.
Have dignity and say no for once in your life! This is still America!
@a3 it’s not short changing the company if they are still completing 8 hours of work a day
one could ask for the policy that a work day is 8 hours in office or for the official communication sent to each employee. at minimum they could start holding it against you based on the minimum communication that has happened in the last month or two but from the standpoint of the whole year I can prove I work more than a full work day each day on average regardless of where that work happened.
Correct. They are required to rate on a bell curve. A certain percentage will get each rating even if it isnt deserved. They will discriminate, play favorites, lie about reasoning, and sc--w people over in the rating process as they always do. 8 hours is a standard work day so if you were short changing the company that will be a tough one to justify even if you were going home and logging back on