Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

Wells Fargo, once the No. 1 player in mortgages, is stepping back from the housing market.

Wells Fargo is stepping back from the multi-trillion dollar market for U.S. mortgages amid regulatory pressure and the impact of higher interest rates.

Instead of its previous goal of reaching as many Americans as possible, the company will now offer home loans only to existing bank and wealth management customers and borrowers in minority communities, CNBC has learned.

The dual factors of a lending market that has collapsed since the Federal Reserve began raising rates last year and heightened regulatory oversight — both industrywide, and specific to Wells Fargo after its 2016 fake accounts scandal — led to the decision, said consumer lending chief Kleber Santos.

“We are acutely aware of Wells Fargo’s history since 2016 and the work we need to do to restore public confidence,” Santos said in a phone interview. “As part of that review, we determined that our home lending business was too large, both in terms of overall size and its scope.”

It’s the latest, and perhaps most significant, strategic shift that CEO Charlie Scharf has undertaken since joining Wells Fargo in late 2019. Mortgages are by far the biggest category of debt held by Americans, making up 71% of the $16.5 trillion in total household balances. Under Scharf’s predecessors, Wells Fargo took pride in its vast share in home loans — it was the country’s top lender as recently as 2019, according to industry newsletter Inside Mortgage Finance.

More like rivals
Now, as a result of this and other changes that Scharf is making, including pushing for more revenue from investment banking and credit cards, Wells Fargo will more closely resemble megabank rivals Bank of America
and JPMorgan Chase

  • Both companies ceded mortgage share after the 2008 financial crisis.

Following those once-huge mortgage players in slimming down their operations has implications for the U.S. mortgage market.

As banks stepped back from home loans after the disaster that was the early 2000′s housing bubble, non-bank players including Rocket Mortgage
quickly filled the void. But these newer players aren’t as closely regulated as the banks are, and industry critics say that could expose consumers to pitfalls. Today, Wells Fargo is the third biggest mortgage lender after Rocket and United Wholesale Mortgage.

Third-party loans, servicing
As part of its retrenchment, Wells Fargo is also shuttering its correspondence business that sells mortgages through third-party companies and “significantly” shrinking its mortgage servicing portfolio through asset sales, Santos said.

The correspondence channel is a significant pipeline of business for San Francisco-based Wells Fargo, one that became larger as overall loan activity shrank last year. In October, the bank said 42% of the $21.5 billion in loans it originated in the third quarter were correspondence loans.

The sale of mortgage servicing rights to other industry players will take at least several quarters to complete, depending on market conditions, Santos said. Wells Fargo is the biggest U.S. mortgage servicer, which involves collecting payments from borrowers, with nearly $1 trillion in loans, or 7.3% of the market, as of the third quarter, according to data from Inside Mortgage Finance.

More layoffs
Altogether, the shift will result in a fresh round of layoffs for the bank’s mortgage operations, executives acknowledged, but they declined to quantify exactly how many. Thousands of mortgage workers were terminated or voluntarily left the company last year as business declined.

The news shouldn’t be a complete surprise to investors or employees. Wells Fargo employees have speculated for months about changes coming after Scharf telegraphed his intentions several times in the past year. Bloomberg reported in August that the bank was considering paring back or halting correspondent lending.

“It’s very different today running a mortgage business inside a bank than it was 15 years ago,” Scharf told analysts in June. “We won’t be as large as we were historically” in the indusry, he added.

Last changes?
Wells Fargo said it was investing $100 million towards its goal of minority homeownership and placing more mortgage consultants in branches located in minority communities.

“Our priority is to de-risk the place, to focus on serving our own customers and play the role that society expects us to play as it relates to the racial homeownership gap,” Santos said.

The mortgage shift marks what is potentially the last major business change Scharf will undertake after splitting the bank’s operations into five divisions, bringing in 12 new operating committee members and creating a diversity segment.

In a phone interview, Scharf said that he didn’t anticipate doing other major changes, with the caveat that the bank will need to adapt to changing conditions.

“Given the quality of the five major businesses across the franchise, we think we’re positioned to compete against the very best out there and win, whether it’s banks, non banks or fintechs,” he said.

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@1isp+1kCOAPO4

It's worse than you predicted. They aren't even selling the business, they are just ki----g it and getting nothing in return. At this point Charles might as well just travel around burning down WF buildings.

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Post ID: @2fcc+1kCOAPO4

As long as Chuck gets paid, and we reward our own inept filthy Mayor Pete’s, we’re ok.

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Post ID: @1btu+1kCOAPO4

But mortgage servicing is profitable, I understand origination is out. But I still don't understand why we are taking servicing out

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Post ID: @1rmw+1kCOAPO4

Remember last summer? When they broke a story of correspondent shutting down? But then told employees…we don’t know what they are talking about…it’s not true…lies

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Post ID: @1lwu+1kCOAPO4

@indf I think you need to read the article again:

“Third-party loans, servicing
As part of its retrenchment, Wells Fargo is also shuttering its correspondence business that sells mortgages through third-party companies and “significantly” shrinking its mortgage servicing portfolio through asset sales, Santos said.”

They are only going to do mortgages for their own customers and underserved minority areas. Origination and servicing of the rest is out.

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@1ndf+1kCOAPO4

Back in 2008, WF did better than many other banks because of its conservative lending strategy. The problem loans mainly came from many of the mortgages WF acquired. Exiting the origination side of the house puts us at greater risk from a financial loss standpoint, but from a reputation standpoint we can blame the originating lender if problems arise.

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Post ID: @1dmy+1kCOAPO4

This is a shock. Like krishty fercko said in the end of year dancing town hall video, WFHM was competing and winning in 2022. So I figured we would keep winning in 2023.

She’s a great executive.

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Post ID: @1qfh+1kCOAPO4

Real Story: WF doesn't want to ORIGINATE anymore. Too much "risk" of bad press with that, so we're letting the Rocket Mortgages of the world do that. We're just going to swoop in and buy up all those mortgages once they're "pre-existing".

So nothing to see here, other than layoffs of some internal WF people and some transparent tactics related to DE&I.

New buzzword alert: Layoffs are now "De-Risking".

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Post ID: @1ndf+1kCOAPO4

Scrwing over American Workers is the game today
While keeping it quiet so no one will say
You are isolated for a reason
When you get fired theres no treason
Your severance package depends on this way

Americans prefer to be individual
Corp executives depend on this divisional
They say uniting is not our style
Because if we did to corps we'd be hostile
Unions to them is more criminal

Chuck proclaims per quarter with glee
to shareholders expenses are draining
they award him by buying more stock
so his options vest in money bloc
while americans lose their jobs to indian rupee

So when you go to work in coming weeks
this limerick you remember these freaks
the only thing that matters is cost
you give them plenty of frost
The bank can kiss your aZcheeks

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Post ID: @1vvy+1kCOAPO4

@1tsp+1kCOAPO4 WITAF is that? Extreme domestic violence? Ridiculous

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Post ID: @1mbk+1kCOAPO4

Auto lending should be next.

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Post ID: @1pfa+1kCOAPO4

Another heart breaking video after layoff, or pending layoff.
This is kind of relevant to the feelings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5y6xLpRwx4

Things go on and will likely be better. Just get past it.

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Post ID: @1tsp+1kCOAPO4

A heart breaker song for those who hearts have been broken:

They Call the Wind Maria
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByqYEzugleE

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Post ID: @1ttp+1kCOAPO4

Lucky if you get severance pay. They first try to force you to quit by giving very negative "Needs Improvement" reviews. Perhaps a Performance Improvement Plan, that IF you ace it, they cannot fire you YET. Just hang in there with the "Needs Improvement" reviews and if given a Performance Improvement Plan do it well. Then collect the severance pay and get a new, hopefully better job.

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Post ID: @1okg+1kCOAPO4

"...play the role that society expects us to play as it relates to the racial homeownership gap,” Santos said.

There it is. Go woke, go broke.

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Post ID: @1arv+1kCOAPO4

Pretty soon, it'll be a small regional bank servicing small business accounts only.

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Post ID: @1wbt+1kCOAPO4

Everyone's been calling me Chicken Little since Scharf came onboard, vehemently disagreeing w/my prediction and saying WF would NEVER sell core businesses like Home Lending. Are you awake now???

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Post ID: @1isp+1kCOAPO4

"Oh no! Wells will never sell off Home Mortgage!" I've warned in the past this was going to happen. Welcome to the daylight my ostrich friends.

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Post ID: @1glh+1kCOAPO4

In Other news, McDonalds and Burger King decided to stop selling burgers and French Fries.

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Post ID: @1pun+1kCOAPO4

A bank that dont lend is like a car that dont run.
#SHORT

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Post ID: @1yco+1kCOAPO4

@1por+1kCOAPO4 Agree on the nature of the industry, but this feels more like a structural business change rather than a cyclical adjustment.

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Post ID: @1zfm+1kCOAPO4

Better protect yourself and choose the most multi racial gender less options available in workday.

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Post ID: @1zaq+1kCOAPO4

So Charlie’s strategy is to focus on minority communities where people tend to have lower incomes and credit scores - so the bank can charge higher interest rates and make more money on late fees.

Makes sense.

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Post ID: @1gdi+1kCOAPO4

Mortgage Servicing Rights (MSR) is a fee based service, how could it lose money??

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Post ID: @1dnk+1kCOAPO4

Welp guess I’ll just be sitting here waiting to get laid off. No where in mortgage is hiring so better to sit and wait for my severance package. FML

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Post ID: @1kjj+1kCOAPO4

When will the packages be ready?

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Post ID: @1jin+1kCOAPO4

Omg of course you cut mortgage as the market shifts. Look at the rates!!!! You should have anticipated this working in this LoB. It’s cyclical like so many other areas.

They’re taking a tiny angle with minority lending - who cares?!?! Good for them. I hope it helps. It won’t change the regular business model that you’re so familiar with, since the macroeconomic environment is not conducive at the moment. Try something new.

Mortgage will not be viable for at least 3-5 years due to the current rates. (Thank the fed chairs since 2000 for the obnoxiously low rates causing these significant hikes now - the fed should have been gradually increasing them over the last 20 years so we wouldn’t have to do consecutive.75 hikes. The USA was greedy. And no I’m not a liber@l).

(Btw, 2008 was not that long ago and it taught us what to look for… always keep your eyes open. Never relax)

Look for areas that have consistent revenue, that’s dependable with low charge-offs - mortgage is not that. The 2008 crash taught us to always look carefully at real estate investments. Look!! Keep watching and get out before it crashes.

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Post ID: @1por+1kCOAPO4

Unbelievable. Trione is rolling over in his grave.

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Post ID: @1zqm+1kCOAPO4

this is going to be re-posted at least 17 times in the next few days.

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Post ID: @wqy+1kCOAPO4

So glad shareholders are paying a premium for a CEO following a 15 year old strategy.

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Post ID: @xud+1kCOAPO4

I am 100% certain that Charlie’s mission is to destroy Wells Fargo from the inside out. He has not made ONE decision that is good for the bank long-term.

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Post ID: @iyr+1kCOAPO4

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/business/money-report/wells-fargo-once-the-no-1-player-in-mortgages-is-stepping-back-from-the-housing-market/3125869/

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Post ID: @fzo+1kCOAPO4

It is not that Wells Fargo will only do loans to those folks. It is that those will be the marketing focus

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Post ID: @jlt+1kCOAPO4

If you work in mortgage you’re pretty much fu---d. Might as well just wait for your severance at this point. Cheers!

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Post ID: @yxl+1kCOAPO4

Potential layoff resulting in getting paid a severance for 2023?

Don't threaten me with a good time WF!

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Post ID: @msl+1kCOAPO4

chainsaw is ready!

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Post ID: @btu+1kCOAPO4

Hearing through the grapevine that there were a bunch of layoffs in mortgage operations today in Iowa, although I'm not sure of the specific groups that were impacted.

Agree though, if you're in mortgage, start looking for another job. The writing is on the wall.

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Post ID: @maq+1kCOAPO4

Wells Fargo employees, join the effort to unionize across Wells Fargo. The Committee For Better Banks and workers at Wells Fargo are organizing Wells Fargo Workers United. Wells Fargo does not treat its employees any better than it historically treats its customers and the only way to fix Wells Fargo's abuse of its customers and employees is for workers to organize and demand a voice in how the company is operated.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/jun/02/wells-fargo-workers-union

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Post ID: @zeh+1kCOAPO4

Leaders: we can't fix it so we'll sell it off.

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Post ID: @bac+1kCOAPO4

If you are in Home Lending, better start looking for another job or wait around until your layoff.

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