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Would you be willing to work 50-60 hours per week if it somewhat increased your changes of being rated Exceeds?

And for those who are bonus eligible, would you in turn expect that Exceeds rating to translate to a dramatic difference in bonus amounts compared with peers rated Meets? At what point would the theoretically higher bonus (targets not guaranteed, by the way) fail to be worth the additional 520-1040 hours you will have put in the prior year?

Example: You work an additional 520 hours during the year and get an Exceeds (also not guaranteed, by the way). This results in a bonus a full $5K higher than peers rated Meets, but the hourly rate for those additional hours is ~$9.62. Worth it?

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Exceeds only gets you more work and less time with what should be more important than a rating by a company that only sh*ts on its employees and customers.

I worked for a lunatic Project Management Manager who didn't know her a-s from her elbow. Thank goodness I got away from her by posting out. Now I work about 5 hours a day and the rest is fluff FVCK WF!!

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Post ID: @2ygh+1kLn2SOf

There are absolutely managers here who've said they won't hand out Exceeds next year to team members who put in only 40 hours per week.

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Post ID: @1bbi+1kLn2SOf

Here’s the secret you seem to be missing. It’s not how much work you do but the impact your work has. You can sit there working 100 hours churning out BAU widgets that just need to happen but management does not care about widgets, even though they are needed.

Get on an initiative. Some shiny penny that management is bent on making happen. Be on the team that delivers that and whether you worked 40 or 70 hours a week it will rain come bonus and merit. I was on a team that delivered 2 big projects in 2021 and my bonus was close to 50% of base. I got a 4% merit and then offered a new role internally that would have been ~15% increase. I left because I never wanted to work myself ragged like that again and was able to get a 35% increase leaving.

Working hard here - or smart - just leads to more work.

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Post ID: @1uhh+1kLn2SOf

No. I’m content being meets. I give them a needs improvement.

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Post ID: @1nah+1kLn2SOf

10-20 extra hours a week for $5k? Lulz nope. The only way I’d ever do that was if the rewards were clearly defined before I started that quest.

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Post ID: @1dgd+1kLn2SOf

So much of ratings are politics that you're much better off getting your boss and their boss to like you than working more and hoping they notice.

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Post ID: @kuj+1kLn2SOf

I did that and the payoff was not worth it. The whole 3k more was not worth the time missed with family nor the health implications. Nit worth it but know that the company hopes you will give them extra time.

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Post ID: @imj+1kLn2SOf

Nope. I'll spend that extra 20 hours per week with my family.

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Post ID: @zxr+1kLn2SOf

Work smarter, not harder.

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Post ID: @mvl+1kLn2SOf

Nope. I was “Exceeds” my first two reviews and it meant nothing. Still got shorted on my bonus.

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Post ID: @oqm+1kLn2SOf

I rarely work over 40 hours a week and have gotten "consistently exceeds" three years in a row.

"Work smarter, not harder" is a saying for a reason.

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Post ID: @yod+1kLn2SOf

Nope. People should work to live, not live to work

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Post ID: @mbn+1kLn2SOf

Don't care about ratings, but I already worked 50-60 hrs a week, until RTO came along. Now it's 6 and done if I'm in the office, and 8 or 9/day when I'm at home.

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Post ID: @oai+1kLn2SOf

No extra hours needed. Just talented lips.

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Post ID: @bdk+1kLn2SOf

Why the f e t i s h on this board for Exceeds?

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Post ID: @gyl+1kLn2SOf

Not worth it.

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Post ID: @krw+1kLn2SOf

I tried that out for a few years. Zero net increase in anything over other years.
You do you but expect to give those 520 hours away for free.

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Post ID: @kdw+1kLn2SOf

"How much of an increase is it from meets to exceeds?"

There are zero rules -- at least rules known to us mortals.

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Post ID: @bps+1kLn2SOf

No. How much of an increase is it from meets to exceeds?

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Post ID: @eci+1kLn2SOf

F**K NO

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Post ID: @kxh+1kLn2SOf

No

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Post ID: @szo+1kLn2SOf

No.

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