Thread regarding Ford layoffs

Think you're safer if you don't share knowledge with others?

Only thing I learned now in my mid 30s is don't teach anything to other engineers. I am even teaching wrong stuff to engineers offshore, or giving them bad and old information. It in your best interest if they are lost.

I was really shocked when I read this on +1kXlHlN7.

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@1lsv+1kZ6Uc6M. What you described is a dysfunctional workplace. Poor management and credit stealing creates that attitude. Organizational efficiency is more important than personal efficiency. Training people is part of the job of an expert in any sustainable organization. They should be rewarded for doing so. Bad management may have created your poor attitude, but it is poor, nonetheless.

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Post ID: @1eur+1kZ6Uc6M

I don't think it is about job safety, but part retribution, part justice. Why should I give someone knowledge for free, especially to the people that are after my job? I know I am going to lose my job, no matter what I do, but why make it easier to the next guy? I don't remember anybody making it easier for me when I started. I know what I know because I spent time and energy figuring it out. Well, it is time for the next guy to do the same or pay me extra for teaching it.

BTW, I have realized that many people, even the "specialists" that own the process, don't take the time to read the documentation. Yes, it takes time and it is boring, but it should be the first step before bothering someone else. So for all those people that value their time more than my own, and expect a quick answer for their problems, I already have an answer: read the documentation and let me know if you still need help.

I have solved some complicated matters at Ford. Well, it is my job as engineer. I remember one time, when I found the reason why a previously engineered solution was failing. Then I had to repeat it several times to a bunch of people: other engineers, managers, etc. I felt very good about myself for a short while, until I found there was a large meeting, lot of managers in there, and someone else explained the issue to these managers. Did the managers know that I was the one solving it? NO.

In this company, you have to keep your cards close to your chest. It doesn't matter the country, because even your Americans coworkers will try to steal the credit from you. Lesson learned for me!

I'll be let go, and that's fine with me. I'll be replaced by someone else, and that's fine with me. However, my knowledge is mine and it goes with me, and that's extra fine with me. The moment the company stops paying me for it, it cannot use it. I don't sell my knowledge, I just rent it. So don't be calling me after I got kick out and expect I'll be solving your problem for free.

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Post ID: @1lsv+1kZ6Uc6M

That is understandable, but sad. We have a PHD in EE, who is obviously underemployed at Ford, who reacts by hoarding knowledge in his modest little silo.

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Post ID: @1qxu+1kZ6Uc6M

So let me talk about cost... Vehicle cost includes warranty, quality, innovation, and recalls. In America we calculate cost by $ at the end of the column.

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Post ID: @1has+1kZ6Uc6M

Brazilian and Mexican workers are cheaper. Farley and Little Bill couldn't care less about knowledge. You aren't saving yourself at all.

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Post ID: @1xid+1kZ6Uc6M

Yes I wrote this and just to make you happy. I do have a Ph.D. in EE from a very god school in Midwest. GPA of 3.91! So my IQ is not low!
We have a 401k and a resume that is all I see.

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Post ID: @1nhh+1kZ6Uc6M

Why are shocked - what are you a massive id--t? So that is what passes for a LL5 or LL4 nowadays??

Seriously the person knows their job isn’t safe, but dammed if they are going to make it easier for the other hapless people in Mexico or India to take American jobs.

Sc--w that; they are getting their retribution on a company that talks big about values but then at the first sign of trouble gets rid of people that know what they are doing just to save a few extra bucks for a quarter or two. People are sick and tired of being treated like disposable diapers; this attitude is all on the leadership of this company.

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