If I get laid off, great, gives me more of a safety net, but I'll be gone either way by mid-May. I'm looking forward to watching SAP sink. They have mistreated me enough it will be enjoyable to watch it crash and burn.
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@jm we’ve been IBMed
Just a certain group who want to do presentations, get face time with exec and everything else isn’t covered
I’m amazed at how far tech capability has dropped across the board. If anything needs to be ramped up with new AI expectations
@jm the current stupid reward plan was designed by an Indian laday who always responded 3 "YES" （it is truly YES YES YES) after anyone's senior than her made a statement. Now she is HPOM....
@jm I feel like there are a lot more vanity projects with managers at SAP - but this tendency is stronger with the Indian managers. Lots of “look at me daddy” vibes to their superiors regarding the work done by their teams. As an individual contributor, I know that 8 hours of analysis and slide deck construction is going to get 15 seconds of air time when they present it upward. Worse, it won’t really influence a decision. It’s just there to make it look like we spent a lot of time thinking about things. It’s a mentality of how much work gets done and not how much the revenue needle gets moved as a result of the work.
Oh, and I’m asked to continually pull this data as if this person doesn’t know that this should be a dashboard. I’d make the damn dashboard for them if it just wasn’t going to be another vanity piece where I don’t get the kudos for the work.
This place has the vibes of my last run at an old guard tech company. Lots of Empire building and “look at me daddy” mid-level managers. Lots of slide presentations explaining how we effected change with our last slide presentation or lame click through demo. Someone needs to them that clicking through screenshots isn’t a demo - it’s a PowerPoint made in a different software package.
I strongly feel the influx of Indian managers at mid level positions has driven sap to more manager pleasing than innovation centric , a lot of backstabbing and favoritism. It is toxic . But sap basically choose this . Most Indians also think linearly , their education system is like that . Sap is perfect for them . Use of tcodes (memorizing them) is all heaven to an Indian educated mind . Not good for innovation or adaptability .
Agree with you 100% - this place has allowed managers to mistreat employees, rampant age discrimination, and disrespected dedicated employees. There is no redeeming this place - it is an immoral cesspool completely lacking in integrity. Rather than prioritizing innovation, teamwork and leadership - SAP has allowed managers to rid the company of some of the very best employees. SAP deserves every bad thing that happens to it.
Read my hips: There will be no layoffs.
@f3 in Germany. And France.
@cw Did your parents have any kids that lived?
@ag Where do you have to give a 6-month notice? In the US, 2 weeks is customary, but definitely not mandatory.
@cw Grow up
@a4 And every one of them will think you're a bitter individual regardless of the truth. Best keeping your powder dry mate.
AI = all indians
This I pray too,I want they crash and sink, businesss model is gone, no one believes sap can do anything, they sell to gold era is gone, Indian experts will crash it :-)
@OP it is not a safety net this time. If you quit, you have to serve a 6-month notice. If they fire you, they give you two weeks of severance for each year served. For T2 or someone who is recent in the company and for acquisition employees, that isn’t a safety net. It is a death sentence in this economy. They can lay off citing bad performance using performance management. Then it’s a worse deal than voluntary retirement.
This company isn’t what it used to be. Executives only care about their own retirement and how much money they make off SAP. And some of them like to feel important and travel using our company budget. A lot of employees have quiet quit. And many more shall be quitting due to frustration. I don’t blame you.
SAP will likely get much better once this executive board members and their bootlicker executives are gone. The former will be gone in a couple of years but the latter will take a good decade or so.
Hope this place burns too! I have never experienced this level toxicity and bullsh-t anywhere else. Incompetent executives who just care about their wealth and who will protect and promote only their friends. SAP empire must be tear down.
Right behind you. Everyone executive in my Rolodex, which is many, will know how cr-ppy this place is.