Thread regarding USAA layoffs

Microsoft Teams - Remote Employees, Get Ready

People are posting the same question all over the public channels: How is having Teams in addition to these other products saving us any money?

The answer is that it's not. First of all, Teams will replace pretty much everything eventually, but the reason Dan wants it in right this second is so they can effectively install spyware on every employee's computer.

Teams has insanely detailed tracking on keyboard/mouse usage, activity, time spent on computer, etc., and more importantly it rolls all that information up to people managers in nice, easy to consume dashboards.

Yes all of these things already exist in some form or fashion. But the information is fragmented, and managers don't currently have access to all of it. With Teams you get one centralized spyware platform that managers can easily access and consume.

I believe that the ultimate plan is to start culling remote employees by terminating for cause based on activity metrics to reduce headcount. Many other companies in the industry use teams to micro-manage and track remote employees, and many people are posting on forums like reddit about being terminated or written up for "7% decrease in activity levels".

USAA is trying to align itself with how the industry is controlling and targeting remote employees, and if I were one of them I would make sure I had a backup plan.


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Post ID: @OP+1ks8fzesb

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@a2 hey now I only did this once in the past 3 years and it was on a Friday

Covid was a different story…. Installed a sink…

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Post ID: @1p9+1ks8fzesb

Not an issue if you’re working and contributing

Those devs and business folks that barely type up a few emails and attend a few meetings each week while goofing off all day “WFH” should be concerned though

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Post ID: @1kk+1ks8fzesb

MS Teams is d-mber than I thought.

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Post ID: @120+1ks8fzesb

Here's what my friend google says about it:
Microsoft Teams tracks employee activity through built-in analytics dashboards and logs. Administrators can view usage reports, user status (such as "Available" or "Away"), and even audit data regarding specific file access. Employers generally monitor these features via the Microsoft 365 admin center.
Native Monitoring CapabilitiesThrough Microsoft's native features, managers can track activity without third-party tools:User Activity Reports: The Microsoft 365 usage dashboard shows metrics over a 7, 30, 90, or 180-day period. Metrics tracked include total messages sent, meetings attended, calls made, and device usage.Presence Status: Teams automatically tracks presence and marks users as "Away" or "Idle" after 5 minutes of keyboard or mouse inactivity.File & Audit Logs: You can track actions on files shared within Teams (such as when an employee downloads or deletes a file) using the Purview portal's audit log.
What Teams Does Not TrackWhile activity is visible, Microsoft limits certain invasive tracking features:No Keystroke Logging: Teams does not track individual keystrokes or mouse clicks.No Screen Recording: The built-in Teams platform cannot take screenshots or record your external desktop activity.No Third-Party App Monitoring: Your employer cannot see your browsing history, web activity, or other open applications on your machine

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Post ID: @11z+1ks8fzesb

@jt key piece is the monitoring before was primarily used for IT performance and when needed employee fraud investigations.

Teams makes the low level micro management monitoring “at a click” accessible for your first line leaders. It’s designed to be a snitch.

“Oh you’ve been at your computer all day? Proximity sensors show you’re in front of your computer less than 40% of the day”

“You were busy on a call at 3? You weren’t at your home location and shows you were at golds gym”

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Post ID: @11w+1ks8fzesb

they have had monitoring software in your computers for years. this isnt new...just presented differently in teams.

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Post ID: @jt+1ks8fzesb

Ah yes. The whole ‘well, you spent a total number of five hours on your computer, instead of eight!’ conversations appear to be on the horizon.

Bring it. Cause if you can get your cr-p done less than 8 hours, you are super effective and should be praised…

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Post ID: @fq+1ks8fzesb

In this thread: phone jockeys used to being micromanaged mad that salaried employees don't want to be micromanaged.

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Post ID: @dw+1ks8fzesb

To me, sounds like it just another thing on the to do list for in office employees, they’re gonna have to jiggle the mouse and spend more time being productive on top of being in office, they’re gonna fight traffic, look for parking, walk a mile, listen to gossip, walk to meetings... now you gotta worry about productivity time on the actual system. 😅

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Post ID: @dq+1ks8fzesb

Slow clap for the employees who wouldn’t stfu about RTO. Now we’ve got ultra micro-management scaled.

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Post ID: @c0+1ks8fzesb

@af that’s the standard reply for every work from home employee. Sounds like that population is single handily holding USAA up on their shoulders. Here is my slow clap of appreciation. But I can’t really clap because I need to keep my hands on the steering wheel while I’m driving. Or I’m shaking hands with a senior executive that can impact if I’ll actually get a promotion and more pay.

So-keep fighting that good fight. Good luck. And Godspeed.

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Post ID: @b2+1ks8fzesb

Actually, remote workers spend a lot more time working for productivity tracking purposes. Non-wfh workers spend more time traveling to/from office, spend more time during lunch, and some more chit-chats in the office. So tell me, which group has more metrics in MSTeams.

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Post ID: @af+1ks8fzesb

@OP keep the conspiracy theories coming. That way you can explain to your family why you were let go: “Honey-it wasn’t me, it was the spyware tracking me”

Or, option 2-maybe just do your job correctly and it won’t matter what they track.

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Post ID: @a6+1ks8fzesb

@a3 That was probably just sarcasm. There are a lot of individuals wearing Airpods on meetings when you walk around Costco though.

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Post ID: @a5+1ks8fzesb

@a3 hourly employees with a set schedule, then yes. I’m a salaried employee, like our AVP told us earlier this year, work the schedule that fits your lifestyle, just make sure you’re not missing any deadlines. During the school year, drop my kids off by 8am, get to office around 9:30, leave at 3:30 to pick them up, log on from home by 4:30pm and work until 8-9pm. Been doing that since I’ve been in this role (6 years), no issues from my leadership team.

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Post ID: @a4+1ks8fzesb

What’s wrong with this? The company is paying you for that time, and if you’re expected to work during those hours, then you should be working. That’s part of the job. Grow up

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Post ID: @a3+1ks8fzesb

How are people supposed to get their shopping done at Costco in Fridco during the day now ?

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Post ID: @a2+1ks8fzesb

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