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Management with no direct reports

Why does Optum have so many Directors and VP’s who don’t have direct reports? If I were trying to trim the fat, that is the first question I would ask.


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@ac I can confirm this. I had a colleague on my team that was horrendous to her staff and embarrassingly unorganized. Her direct reports kept quitting faster than she could hire new ones. To her credit, she was an incredible brown noser. When we were told we couldn't hire for our department anymore, they started taking away direct reports from others to give her new staff. After she completely cannibalized 3 separate teams in the past six months, she put in her two week notice to leave for another job. So much talented staff left or got sc--wed, just to keep her useless butt around for much longer than needed

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@e9 That's cool that you think that! I'm a huge supporter of creative thinking. But I've literally seen the scenario I've described.

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Directors, Senior Directors are the WORST. They don't do ANYTHING except attend meetings, create some AI slops and share them as "ideas", constantly send reminders for status, timesheets, my learning dues. Seriously they have no skills, won't be able to solve one real issue in production or any real.work. These people are SHAMELESS.

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And what’s up with Directors reporting to Directors, Senior Directors reporting to senior directors and VPs reporting to VPs? Weirdest stuff I’ve ever seen.

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@e9 You must be a director with no direct reports. It doesn’t take dedicated directors to solution business processes/workflows. AI can do that.

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@ac I don't think that is a true statement. There are so many associate director level and director level positions that don't require direct reports. They are to focus more on the business, processes, and changing things around. From what I have seen

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Oftentimes their reports got moved under a leader's friends to have more grounds to promote them.

Oftentimes their reports got moved out from under them because they weren't enough of a su-k-up.

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