hi, I am soon to be new dad. My question is once I use up the paternity days, I would like to use my PTOs which I have few weeks left for this year. Is it okay to use three half days for each week for 6 weeks. This will help me stay at home for 6 weeks more. I dont want to tell my manager or anyone about this. WIll this flag or cause an issue?
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@he Same here. I work the entire time during almost all my PTO -- pretty much only take PTO to avoid going to the office. I know it's d-mb but it's my PTO and I can do what I want with it. I wouldn't work during PTO if my team wasn't crazy busy but we always are and there's no end in sight. It would be asinine for any WF leader to say people can't do this since we're working for free. I don't put my autoreply on or say I'm out on my calendar or anything.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with taking half days to remain remote. However, there could be an issue if you are not signing on and still “working”. If you took paternity and then you just work half days they may start to be able to get along without you. I do something similar but i work. I know it is crazy but i like the convenience and so for me it is worth it.
@fs thank you, I thought I was taking crazy pills seeing ch's post being up voted. As far as I understand, days in office and hours in office are two separate calculations- your days in office isn't used as a denominator to divide your total hours in office. If it was, not only would half pto days be a problem, so would full pto days and holidays, which would show as a day in office but zero hours in office.
Maybe some LOBs calculate it differently, but it's an enterprise dashboard. I suspect ch is just playacting as a manager
@ch making absolute claims is ridiculous. Shows you are a terrible manager and blind individual. I did this for 2.5 months and had zero issues with avg hours. Further, if your stance was true from an Enterprise level, even just two half days spread across two different weeks would be enough to trigger below 7.5 hour averages because of the way calculations are done here. Yes, I get to see the actual dashboard management has access to and verified with mine own two eyes.
Do better and don’t be so apocalyptic in your statements.
With that reasoning, literally everyone should be canned, including the CEO. Look at United Healthcare. Their CEO passed. Did it really change anything at the company or slow them down? No, still denying claims like crazy and doing the same stuff they were before. I'm sure their security detail is beefed up, but otherwise it's like it never happened. So, let's get rid of the execs first, and see how it goes before we apply the logic to the rest of us. Deal?
@ch my evidence is myself. I did the exact same thing for two weeks and I show 8+ avg. Maybe different orgs have different formulas.
Paternity leave is too long
Away that long you’re not needed
A good manager would recognize the play here and tee you up to be fired for performance.
You want to take 1/2 days of vacation and then supposedly "work" the other 4 hrs at home when that manager knows darn well you're just taking care of a baby.
There is a reason remote work was removed and you are a perfect example.
@c8 it absolutely is true. I manage a team of 11. One of my employees burned carryover PTO by taking 4 hours every Friday in January and February this year. Their days in office averages were fine but it tanked their hours per day average. What's your evidence that I'm wrong?
Be careful doing it. Some on our side did it for vacay purposes and had to put a justification into Workday for it and were told to not do it again. Granted, they didn't show up for an entire month because of their amount of half days.
@bz nope, not true
Half days of PTO count as a day in the office but they don't contribute towards the calculation of your HOURS in the office. Multiple recurring half days of PTO will tank your hours averages and likely push you below 8- which may generate another conversation with your manager. Just saying
I did half days, every week since January just to stay home. Used all my PTO except vacation week. Worth it.
@OP This is a layoff site, contact your manager or HR.
I did it for 5 weeks at a stretch, but i did in such a way that I wasn't missing a lot of meetings. Depending on the meetings schedule, I switched to am vs pm.
Many on our team do it all the time with no push back.
HR allows. It is a violation if your manager says no. Make a formal complaint if you get pushback.
The policy states that a half day pto (not the only exception) counts as a day in the office