like Folsom or Hillsboro
Because they can’t pass the technical interviews???
If you haven’t left by now, you are by definition mediocre.
The competition has better talent. Better culture. Better compensation by FAR. Better management.
It’s a no brainer for people with talent.
Decent medical (no longer excellent) and sabbatical. Overall benefits not bad.
PD for green card.
I stay because I am close to retirement. I cannot leave now and search for another job. So chose to work as hard as possible and pull along for as long as possible, hoping for the best.
Competitive salary for 1 hr/day work. Why would intel employees leave?
As an international who is waiting for the green card approval, i will get out of this sh---y place and pursue another career as soon as the card is approved. The semiconductor industry was the last manufacturing industry that survived in the US, but now it is dying. As a graduate last year, i watched many of the college students studying CS even though their major is Mechanical Eng., Chemical or Material Science. Many of people here are blaming the Intel leadership, but please look ouside of Intel. No one wants to pursue hardware manufacturing career in the US.
Free banana and coffee.
@wyd+1l8chBJd. You must be from HR. (previous post has a typo, please delete).
@wyd+1l8chBJd. You must be from HR.40
There are many people at Intel who have pretty much never worked elsewhere. So basically their only skills are working at Intel. That plus having to move from Hillsboro means that they're stuck. That leads to the sort of protect-your-turf politics-over-competency nonsense that runs Intel. Good people not stuck have largely left. So many people just going through the motions.
Free fruit.. Yeah, that's it. Free fruit.
And all the caffeine your heart can take.
I will confess pay is good enough, kids and wife are settled so yeah it’s totally a dead end but trudge on and hope for the best.
Doesn't seem like you're honestly asking the question. Seems like you already have your mind made up regarding the answers.
So will the happy times soon come to an end like GE, IBM and so many other America companies that die a slow to quick death
@afb+1l8chBJd - not young and idealistic, but older, jaded, and much less patience for B.S.
I've got a pretty nice setup
My work life balance is about right, I'm able to fully remote
My work is interesting enough to keep me from looking
My salary (was) just about enough to keep me from looking elsewhere.
Salary has always been the weakest of these compared to where else I could go, it's even worse now since the cuts
Some work at Intel can actually be interesting - that aspect should not be underestimated.
It's only the manufacturing part that seems messed up beyond repair making it even more puzzling to everyone why management is so hung up on pouring billions into this hole.
In other words, they are not good enough to get into top paying companies.
Mediocrity reigns at Intel.
Intel pays ICs a lot of money. Part of this is that it is because of lack of growth etc. many folks top out at g8 and g9 until they are forced to retire.
Why don’t they leave intel? Because they have been programmed to be happy with good pay for minimal effort.
With no management experience many of these G8s and 9s would only get a payday increase if they went to Microsoft or google. Most other companies would not pay them close to what Intel is.
This is why no one leaves!
@psd I know right. When I left Intel I went to a smaller, but still a big tech company. The grass WAS NOT greener. I attribute it to them not having such a great HR as Intel. That is really what keeps the quality products going to the customers and makes it a wonderful place to work. An extensive HR organization with ALL KINDS of programs. That is what Intel has that our competitors are really lacking is our HR organization and all the things they do for us to make the company run better and keep the figurative grass green.
Direct management and colleges make the work environment, not the upper management. It all depends on what you want. I like my work environment - there is some pressure, but it really is a pleasant place to work.
Just for perspective - Intel is my 3rd company. Same cr-p, different place with better pay and bennies for now.
I’ve sampled or closely experienced multiple fabless and semiconductors manufactures as well as vendor and support during my time at Intel and far more closely after I left the $hitshow.
Every company has chaotic and messy orgs as well as depending on size and situation can be in turmoil as well depending on stages of the company, business and organization.
But let’s be honest Intel is totally fu€ked up. All boats rose during the bo-m the last two years but ONE. How many had three CEOs changed chairman as many times and needs billions of handouts? Couldn’t find a CEO after BK, We are talking US auto and steel failure level here! Sure one can hum along but got ask, you proud, or just looking forward to your personal life stuff?
When you loon back just want to have the few years of your life left or be proud of something ?
You must be young and idealistic still my friend. Good luck to you.
After leaving Intel a few years ago, my experience was that the grass is NOT greener somewhere else, it's just a different shade of green.
The first post-Intel company I worked for had NO leadership whatsoever. People did what they wanted when they wanted, the place was a chaotic mess. There was a mass exodus prior to my arrival, and I was part of another mass exodus when I left a year later which included all the people that hired me! The next company I went to work for was slightly better but mostly the same thing. Covid might have something to do with all that.
Finding the next "thing" can be challenging, and when you do, once you've established yourself and have tenure and seniority, good pay and benefits, it can be difficult to leave. In my day we called it the "Golden Handcuffs."
I saw the writing on the wall during my time at Intel and the only reason I check in on this site is to see if things have gotten better or worse in case I might want to return someday. Clearly it's gotten worse, much worse.
It can be very difficult to find a "better" work situation for many reasons.
The grass is not always greener some where else, even as bad as Intel has become.