Thread regarding Ford layoffs

A master's requirement for most positions doesn't make sense. Really, any standardization of requirements for all employees across the company doesn't make sense, but it is easier for managers - especially hiring managers. MEs requiring degrees might make sense, IDK. What i do know is that I sure don't think some LL4+ should decide that. Define requirements based on input of those in the job, weighted to their experience. Novel concept...

Bachelor's degrees make sense in a lot of cases, especially entry level. For many jobs though, there needs to be a path for experienced professionals, regardless of if they have any level of formal degree. This is often a heated discussion around the company... I usually find it's rooted in arrogance, whether from degree holders(of any level) or those without the degree. If you have a certain degree and are saying those without are less qualified, you are speaking in part on experience you don't have. If you don't have a degree, you're speaking on experience you don't have. Both are saying that the missed experience(school vs. OTJ) causes a knowledge gap, without knowing what knowledge the other gained.

Actually 3 generations did not do that. Ford made money hand over fist as recent as Mullally. It's struggling under the weight of poor leadership. The same workers and GSR's didn't become bad overnight. BTW you can't change the football team, you change the coaches. Smug Model E folks are only getting a paycheck because of Ford Blue sales. You'd think there would be some humility when they talk about employees who have served and worked for this company for decades.

@1rjf+1lCWHbF6 what did 3 generations do. Sink this company and make it No.1 in recalls.

An advanced degree is not a pre-requisite to being a good engineer. Having said that, there are engineering fundamentals which are an outcome of a solid education. Mold stresses, FEA, crash performance, circuit design etc. A good engineer usually has a balance of technical and practical skills. There is no need to put one down and lift the other up.
The bottomline is the folks being hired need to be competent for the job they are being hired for. Many a time we don't see that, and the quality of work suffers. It's not the degree folks, it's the attitude of management promoting incompetence, or marginal competence, at the expense of proven candidates.

Too many MBA's, McDonnell Dougas and Wokeness is what is ki-ling the Boeing Company. If current Boeing Leaders don't get the axe, the sharp end soon and they don't bring someone in to right the ship. Then Boeing is heading down a road to a point of no return and will be out of the Airplane business within 10 years tops. You don't survive designing and building airplanes with more wokeness and more MBA's. You do it with good Engineers and people who are good working with their hands who can build those airplanes that roll out the door to be sold.

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A bachelors degree in Engineering or Technology earned from a American University is more respected than any India diploma-mill fake masters degree including yours any day of the week chump. Lot of people working in US Auto Industry are 2nd or 3rd generation. It's in their DNA. Nothing like that exists in India and never will. Doubt you ever been in a local Autozone store trying to buy a part to fix your own car. Would be funny to see that too. You probably would walk in the store and first thing you tell the guy at the parts counter is that you know more than he does because you got a fake Masters degree from some flip flop diploma-mill from back home in India.

@1rjf+1lCWHbF6 the so called Bachelor's will do things that are pain in A even for master's degree holders to fix it. First go to two year degree program in a good university and get out a least with B and then preach. You lazy W as...You guys just come to work chill at the coffee machine and discuss about home renovation, travel, what not and then steal immigrants' work. All you know it spreadsheets and ppt.

Plenty of Americans available to fill jobs. There is no need for Ford to hire H1B's. Problem is Ford leaders as well as other companies are guilty of allowing their HR Departments to discriminate against someone's age. So that takes anyone over 50 years of age out of the running to be offered a job at Ford. What about Disabled people? Does Ford or other companies hire disabled people? The Federal Government sure as heck don't. Look at the Unemployment rate among disabled people even those with college degrees. As a example, the unemployment rate among deaf people has been hovering around 90% for fourty years now, even for deaf people who have earned technical college degrees in Engineering or Software. Now, why can't Ford and other companies show some incentive and hire these marginalized disabled people.

Master's are professional students. All book and no application. The minute things don't work by the book they are lost and looking for someone that can actually figure out what it going out. You can't get that from a book.

Some of the most clueless people I know are the most educated people I know.

Ford created its own issues by requiring multiple degrees where it is not necessary. Almost everyone who is a GSR in Engineering has at least 2 degrees. Yet, they are not deemed "promotable." At any other company, they'd be higher up the chain and likely making more money. Ford has created ridiculous requirements. No wonder their cost structure got out of control.

Ford is ojt even for ceo. No need for college degree. Just common sense.

The company wants its IT managers to have MBA's and that has proven to be a disaster.

You do not need a Master's degree for ANY job, unless it is specialized. Anyone can be trained.