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Let’s take a moment and clap for everyone working from home in 2018. They desperately need recognition. 👏
@1ldg+1lOHid2q
Same. I've been WFH since 2017. Nobody in my line of work at competitors goes into an office and nobody I currently work with is even near my city. It's a d-mb squeeze to cut numbers. I've been going in as required, but I'll be resigning soon.
I used to think the bonuses made up for the lower than market pay, but competitors are giving higher base plus bonuses. I thought Wells Fargo would be the job I retired from, but the corporate culture doesn't honor loyalty. It's just not that kind of job market anymore.
For those bootlickers that comment about how RTO wasn't an issue prior to COVID, so what?
Things change. The world changes. People change. Values change. And so on.
The bootlicker argument is basically "we did it like that once, so let's just keep doing that forever!".
COVID changed the world. The other 99% of us aren't interested in what worked in a previous era, decade, etc. Rather, we're interested in efficiency and work-life balance to achieve the same result.
I was WFH in 2018 soooo...
My office used to go in only day a week. That was the most unproductive day since we'd all just hang out chatting.
WFH saves you money, time and aggravation. There's no going back once you're used to it.
No job is worth sitting in a cubicle 40 hours a week for. What the fu-k eta are YOU living in to believe this is sane or healthy for anyone?
Customer facing jobs should be in office when they need to meet with customers in person. On days they don't they should work from home.
Everyone else should work from home every day.
Wells Fargo then could dump the unnecessary real estate, save money on energy, maintenance. Then they can tout being green.
Scharf and Powell must hate their wives and kids.
The reason most dont want RTO is they all need new clothes cause their fat a$$ cant fit in their clothes anymore since being home.
1950s…..
RTO should remind you of 2018.
Not lazy. But focused on efficiency and rationality.
RTO has nothing to do with work. Also, I have no kids, so...yeah.
Yes. Anti social, as well.
no…RTO reminds me of the 1950’s designed for married men that has their wife managing their home and children and a secretary that handles everything else which gives them plenty of freedom to commute in rush hour, go to the gym between meetings and set up a team happy hour after work
Exactly the reason we hire h1b to replace you @1bbz+1lOHid2q
Very lazy. If you cannot maintain a work life balance with only 3 days in office you have bigger problems than WF. We don’t care about your little brats and the ability to slack off. We care about you doing the work you were hired for.
Yes, and it is embarrassing.
Those complaining about RTO are the ones who figured out during the pandemic what work-life balance can really look like. You know, that thing that the higher ups tell us to pursue, yet out of the other side of their mouths they proclaim the need to have tails in seats simply for the purpose of good optics.
For the first time in generations many of us experienced work as the rest of the non-third world sees it. We got our work done, we met deadlines, we were efficient, yet we were still involved in our families lives, took a few minutes during the day to run an errand, saw the kids off to school or helped with school work at home, on occasion we maybe even took a 15 minute nap. The horror!
For the vast majority of us, work is work. It doesn’t define who we are. We want to do our jobs well, but we realize that we’re not making, doing or contributing anything that directly benefits us. If we retire tomorrow the show goes on without us. So what’s our legacy? What will we be remembered for? WFH gave many of us that pause we needed to be truly introspective, and we’ve realized that ki-ling ourselves for 10-12 hours per day in an office benefits 2 or 3 people at the very top of the chain.
No. They are efficient.
If you're trying to brag about commute time and its associated cost, what does that say about you?
Lazy, likely not
Patriotic, most likely yes
There are always OPT, H1-b holders waiting to shadow you at the office and to extract your precious knowledge for their motherland.
They are getting our education for free, and we get the boot.
H1-b and OPT visas should pay for our tuition and student loans.
No, they’re not lazy. They just care about their actual life and personal well being more than they do their “career.” Which, to me, is very noble.
Yes. End of discussion.
Not necessarily, but if it’s the choice the company has made, it’s still kind of a free country. They can make that choice and you can make the choice to go to another company which has a culture which syncs with your own. I did it a couple years ago and have never been happier.
Oh, and I’ve made way more money by leaving than the severance packages are going to provide for those of you praying to get bailed out by those (if they happen).
RTO matters if you enjoy working for the company and believe in what they are doing. You trust management and understand how your cooperation in returning to office matters for the big picture. You are willing to make sacrifices knowing the company recognizes you and has clearly communicated goals with intent and transparency.
If you are a historically low performer, cynical or burnt out high performing employee, remote work is the only real thing keeping you at WF. Taking that away is insulting as you believe the company is asking more out of you than you are getting in return.
Do u enjoy commuting for hours with your thumb up your a$$
I'm efficient and before RTO I routinely worked 50-55 hours a week because I wanted to go above and beyond for a company that respected me enough to work wherever was best. Now it's less than 40 because F them.
No.
100% yes.
No. End of discussion.