Thread regarding Ford layoffs

"the fact that experts say..."

Stopped reading after that

@wvf+1lTfZ6bP Another mo--n with an opinion... ICE stands for Internal Combustion Engine. It doesn't mean it has to be gas. It can be alcohol, hydrogen, and who knows what else. BTW, how do you think most of the electricity is produced nowadays? Burning fuel... So, no, ICE is NOT going anyway, but BEVs are going away.

Many experts have said that there are not enough minerals in the Earth to build all the millions of vehicles needed now. Many other experts have pointed out the flaws in the planning, but we still go ahead full speed, like the Titanic.

While I agree with the obvious, ICE vehicles produce carbon monoxide through exhaust and EV vehicles do not - I feel that EV production should be more strongly scrutinized.

Battery materials are mined in third world countries by people working in conditions that USA would define as human right violations.

Disposal of batteries will have a profound and extreme impact on the environment.

Internal Combustion Engines can continue to be improved to lower emissions and improve fuel economy. I think this should be the path forward while EV continues to be studied and implemented much more slowly.

And this doesn't even address the charging infrastructure - and what the cost of electricity will become...

@wvf+1lTfZ6bP. Regardless of what the experts say about environmental benefits, the goals need to be realistic. There are tradeoffs that need to be addressed. The negligence in addressing the tradeoffs and failing to set more realistic goals tells us the experts either lack expertise or have political, not scientific, agendas.

You can say the goals are unrealistic all you want but it doesn't change the fact that experts say ICE vehicles are not sustainable and BEV's while not perfect yet are much better for the environment and climate.

The experts say.... safe and effective, anti white racism is the only way to heal our original sin, trans women are women, climate change is an existential threat, EV's will save the planet, printing money (modern monetary theory) is good, it's more important to be woke than to be productive or profitable, women's rights are human rights, kindness is everything and lots of other expert things.

Truth and facts win out in the end... but there may be a lot of carnage caused by the lies the experts demand we believe along the way.

An interesting article. After Shell and others proclaimed we sailed past peak oil back in 2019 I think the alarms went off as to we better get going on SOMETHING... Well flipping the mobility energy supply over to electric with a spotty battery supply chain and real questions as to if the current technologies are scalable based on materials - not technology - is a very expensive geopolitical strategic gamble. Not to lessen the challenges that production and reliability lessons yet to be learned will teach us about product liability exposure, new toxic chemicals, etc., etc.

I'm long in tooth as well, my take is that the piston engine isn't going to go away any time soon. However, our governments desire to destroy demand based on regulation is a strange way to achieve conservation of existing resources. LOL, maybe I'm just and old curmudgeon, but I think this will progress into a giant mess as no cohesive energy policy seems to publicly exist. Just look at the expertise of the current DOE Secretary.
Private industry needs to make profits, government seems to be a mess as usual, so get ready for a bumpy road ahead. Take heart, as physics wins in the end -not economics or political science (Passes out dictates or printing money can't fix this). If we can't get our policies aligned then physics will do it for us. Wish it wasn't this way!