Technology allows us to do knowledge jobs from anywhere. Why are so many of you psychologically attached to the office?
Yes, we know the standard “remote jobs will be sent to Bangalore” BS. It’s been debunked/refuted like 50 times here, so you can stop repeating it.
Seriously though, why the generational hard-on for the office? Nobody under 40 gets it.
@2tuh LOL the only type of laid you’re getting is laid-off.
Guess I am also a boomer. because I go bo-m bo-m daily with the young pretty chickadees here at work.
In our operating sites the offices are 40+ years out of date, they aren't conducive to effective collaboration and the company hasn't invested a dime in these office spaces since covid. You ain't attracting me back you clowns! 😁
@lqo Sure, they spent a lot of money on office space.
That’s not why they’re dragging you back to the office though.
Many cities and counties provide tax-based subsidies to firms on the condition that their workplaces are occupied to some unspecified degree (I’ve heard 50% of max occupancy per the local fire marshal, but I’m not certain). So that’s one reason you’re being told to show up.
Another is that commercial real estate makes up a sizable share of many executives’ portfolios, and they’ve taken personal financial losses due to the decline of office use.
We could spend all day talking about all of the nonsensical reasons everyone was dragged back to the office, but the bottom line is that none of reasons are related in any way to productivity, collaboration, or whatever other buzzy BS C-suite types toss around to gaslight their workforces.
I like the freedom to go back and forth honestly. Should be an option. To answer the question if you spent a ton of money on office space wouldn’t you want to use it?
The jobs are being outsourced whether US workers go to the office every day or not. Driving in to the office every day gives the narcissistic psychopath managers a power trip that gets them off in a whet dream while they're sleeping in their office with the door closed pretending to be in a meeting.
“I’m not a boomer. I just happen to agree with them on everything.”
There FIFY.
Also not a big difference between early GenX and boomers.
“I’m not GenX either.”
Doesn’t matter what you are. You’re defending outdated ideas about work that are correlated with how boomers view work, so for this conversation, you’re a boomer.
Ok Einstein…boomers are more likely to be pip’d (ageism), justification being “well you’re not showing up in the office”
I’m not a boomer but I seriously don’t get why people are still complaining that not everyone thinks like you and not a lot of people actually want remote. And that study after study shows in office (and sometimes hybrid) boosts morale and collaboration vs remote. Want to know why culture died? Not being in the office. Are there perks to remote? Absolutely. On an individual level do some people do better remote? Absolutely. But overall team productivity decreases and team effectiveness decreases. The company is here for the TEAM to excel, not YOU to excel. People want the company to make money as much money as possible, not you specifically to be the reason the company makes some money.
Again, I like remote work and in some cases it’s beneficial or better. But as an overall strategy there hasn’t been much evidence to support it in studies that have controlled for other variables. I like remote, but I get why companies don’t.
A lot of antiquated thinking on this thread.
The answers amount to “this is how I’ve always done it, I’m struggling to adapt, ergo I’m making it everyone else’s problem”.
Someone needs to take a sledgehammer to this “work ethic” BS. Every time a boomer is called out on their dated views regarding the workforce they pull this out like it’s magic. Your “work ethic” is just you dragging yourself to a job you despise because you need the money and you can’t afford to retire.
How about all the boomers go to the office and everyone else does WFH? Seems like a win-win to me.
The office is conducive to workers trying to think who don't want to be forced to overhear multiple conversations. The office is respect for private conversations with your Dr, S.O., or family. The office makes majority of common work conversations more effective. I regularly have zoom calls to campus when I can't understand the person I called bc their coworkers conversation is too loud. The office is where I used to get work done. These days I get more work done at home, where I have an office.
Which is fine except the amount of wfh we're officially permitted isn't adequate. I'll happily pay for and furnish my own home office space for the cost savings of driving to work. Though for my role, occasional days or periods onsite to maintain or form new in-person relationships is still important. For those on site days, it would be nice to have an office or private work space. Or I can just show up to site for the meeting and then go home. That's better than sit the rest of the day in a cacophony of distraction and be unproductive.
The world is wasted on the young.
Be diverse and inclusive for all unless you are a boomer or white male.
What a post.
Instead of hating on each other, recognize the problem. The company is not enabling the people who want to work in the office (ie Neighorhoods bunk) and is ALSO not enabling the people who want to work from home (ie ‘We work better in person.’)
So stop fighting with each other and smarten up to the fact that the company is creating contradictory policies and rhetoric. Call the upper management out on a cultural foul instead.
I don’t get it either with boomers and showing up in the office. I still work remotely 2 days a week which is less than before. There is no reason for me to waste time driving to the office for a zoom call or emails when I can do that from my place or somewhere else. Usually I work remotely on fridays and mondays and go somewhere out of town. If I have to go in 5 days a week I’ll find another job. They need me more than I need them.