I was Just offered a SLS position last week. Give me your thoughts on it. I’m not sure I want to accept it with all that’s going on right now in the company. Scared not to take it because it may stunt my growth but I also don’t trust the company. For example, promote me and then can me as some sort of twisted talent management gimmick.
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Accept the SLS assignment if you are willing to sacrifice your "Personal Integrity" and row in the boat with all SLS's. You need to remember that "forced rankings" to NSI means you will need to lie to your employees that are impacted.
Please also note that if you decline the SLS offer, you will be ranked in the bottom this ranking cycle. ExxonMobil management does not like employees who decline or refuse a management assignment.
Take it. Only for a few years to get replace by a brown nose contractor
You should probably turn it down if you are asking for advice on a layoff board. People turn down assignments all the time. No one talks about it but it isn’t a big deal.
Take the job, Bank the cash. Sure, you’ll be turfing folks just like the hunger games, but so what? They’ll be outsourced anyway, so grow a pair, PiP’ing a single parent mother is not so bad after you get used to it.
@1vpr+1laOpImO closest thing to SLS in upstream would probably be the superintendent position, SLS has First Line supervisors and/or engineers reporting to them, and they usually report to either a department head or division manager depending on the size of the site.
So…..
There’s a guy working for EM asking for advice on whether he should take a promotion on this message board? Do I have that right?
Question for all EM employees: What actually qualifies someone to work there? Will they just hire any dummy from A&M with a bachelor’s and put them in charge of people or critical systems? Asking for a friend.
Why let uncertainty of the future create stress and anxiety? Does the job create opportunities to expand your skills? Is it something you want to do? What can you bring to the table? We all have jobs that have downsides. But often the upside is greater than the downside. You have a choice in this future whether you take it or not.
Not sure if turning down an assignment is an option with any company, especially EM. They dictate where they shuffle people rather than having open job posting. You have no control over your career.
You have been identified as an IC the company can do without, unfortunately you are not valued as a manager either. The company needs another SLS to do their dirty work PIP’ing ICs. They figure you can PIP others, then if the guilt and sleepless nights don’t force you to quit, they will PIP you. If you were SLS material they wanted to keep, you would have been offered the position previously, not after too many other SLSs went through the same thing and quit before finishing the company’s goals of PIP’ing more. Why do you think so many SLSs quit in the previous two years? Why do you think there were so many ICs promoted to SLSs in the past two years who were not SLS material?
You’re in a bad spot. Turn the “promotion” down and you will be PIP’d. Take the “promotion” and you will have to PIP others you know shouldn’t be PIP’d. You will then have to PIP again until the company reaches its headcount reduction goal, then you will be let go.
Whether you take the “promotion” or not, you need to update your resume and be interviewing for another job. Turn down the promotion, don’t worry that you will be PIP’d knowing that it is bs and not your actual performance, and find another job within two years, you’ll pass the first PIP, but not again next year. Your other option, take the SLS position, update your resume, interview for other jobs, and PIP people for as long as the company wants, realizing that you will be fired when the company reaches its goal. If you can sleep at night knowing what you have to do and knowing that you won’t know when you will be fired, take the SLS job.
You need to decide what looks better on a resume, IC at ExxonMobil or SLS at ExxonMobil. You could always leave out the SLS position on your resume.
As Jigsaw would say, “The choice is yours.”
Is there a first line supervisor? Is the SLS reporting to the asset manager? Slightly confused to that naming convention although I’ve heard quite a bit. Just never cared to ask. I am in upstream
Take the job. You're right that you'll stunt your career if you don't. You're asking a layoff site for advice on taking a job that will involving PIPing their colleagues. Of course you're going to get told off like previous posters are doing. Exxon prizes it's managers way more than it's individual contributors (IC) as you well know. In XOM world, every manager can be an IC but not every IC can be a manager. You should be more scared of what will happen to you if you don't take the job. Executive leadership says that we still haven't reached headcount targets in the US yet which means they need more SLSs to manage people out through PIP. In fact, LM made that very clear when he could barely contain his incredulity at being asked if there were going to be more headcount reductions. "We're commodity business lmao, of course we're going to reduce more headcount. My buddy TG and KM need to justify their existence by making you nonexistent. Cute socks btw 😉". Moreover, opportunity will exist to build the low cost replacements in Malaysia, India, and China. You will not want to be an individual contributor in the coming years. It's clear to me that I'd reather be applying the PIPe than the one receiving it.
Generally the first “real” step in the management ladder for site engineers. You are assessed by CL, regardless of position so unless you’re getting bumped from 25 to 26 it will only help your ranking. Going from 25 to 26 can be tough if you aren’t being sufficiently “visible” in your job but an SLS role usually helps with that.
It depends on what part of the org you are in and what you want to do with your career
This must be what people mean when they say supervisors are d-mb.
Just in time for performance assessments. Must mean that they feel you will handle PIP'ing your friends and colleagues with the utmost respect. Get ready for the guilt trip you will go through as you take away the livelihoods of decent hard working people that are just trying to make a living and taking care of their loved ones.
Never turn down a promotion...
You have no spine. This is a positive step in your career and you are asking a layoff post for guidance. Best of luck in your decision.
Ouch.
Take the job, work hard, and don’t listen to most of the BS, treat your team right, not sure where you are ? BR, BT …it will be worth it.
If you got the offer, it means you check all the boxes in terms of being a Douchebags, not giving a fk about your coworkers, backstabbing, sucking up, regurgitation of management rhetoric, and minority.
If you want to make a difference for the average employee, just quit. We don't need more of the same.