Thread regarding ExxonMobil Corp. layoffs

Just ask EM management where it was/is easier and cheaper to lay off people: in countries with unions at the negotiating table with management, or in countries without unions and without negotiations. Unions have achieved so much which is now taken for granted, think of e.g. no child labour, free weekends, vacation days, sick leave, parental leave, maternity leave, rules on working conditions and salary treatment, social security, legal aid, ... So what if membership costs you a very small amount every year, think of what you get in return! People who are against unions are either people who have unions working for the bosses instead of for the employees or people who have no experience with unions and have their "information" from hear say...

Unions have pros and cons. They empower employees. But the unions we have now days is a weak cry from what they were supposed to be.

I want a union.
I dont want a union like the lockout in beaumont.

I would pay dues to a union for the simple satisfaction of being a thorn in the side of Exxon.

This is a tangent, but don't listen to the person who thinks you can't call yourself an engineer in Texas without a license. The Texas Engineering Practice Act itself lists many exemptions.

Why do you think Exxon deplores unions and strongly discourages its employees from joining them? Do you think Exxon has your best interests at heart or theirs? What’s worse, having a collective voice to push back, or continue to watch a small group of degenerates destroy livelihoods?

Just look at us steel industry. Just look at us auto industry. Just look at us airline industry. Just look at New York City. Are you r..arded to think a union is good for the employee or customers ? YES I think so.

As an engineer from an accredited school, sign me up for a union! I cannot believe that people still think they have power in the market as Corporations lay off thousands and ship them to whatever country is willing to let their citizen get thoroughly exploited. The vitriol against unions is has been shaped by decades of propaganda funded by ghouls like XOM executives. See how quickly they go from we care about you to sending the Pinkerton's to your house when you try to band together.

The corporate overlords spent years turning people against unions. That's how workers ended up in the current condition we find ourselves in. Good luck with your efforts.

Union is a bad idea. Creates more angst than benefits. Also shutdowns creativity and motivation.

Obviously we can’t trust XOM to do the right thing in any circumstance. I would definitely vote union

Actually, you’re not allowed (in Texas and other places) to call yourself an engineer (no matter schooling or experience) unless you’re a licensed professional engineer.

“An engineer with a non-tech degree”

In other words, you’re not an engineer. And no, “experience” does not compensate for not having (at least) an ABET-accredited bachelor’s degree in an engineering discipline. ExxonMobil may have given you a job title with the word “engineer” in it, but an engineer you are not.

To your comment, a union would accomplish at least two things:

1. It would ensure that members had proper qualifications for their job roles/functions.
2. It would organize some form of pushback against sending jobs overseas.

Because they are wildly ineffective, grossly incompetent… and cost me money!!!

As an engineer with a non-tech degree, my greatest leverage is the tight job market… it’s 100% more effective than other incompetent people for me to blindly send cash.

Exxon is moving most of their work to India. Union or not. Just accept it… deal with it accordingly.