Thread regarding Intel Corp. layoffs

What do Intel and Ford have in common?

Ford reported terrible results for the quarter. Like Intel, the company believes their cost structure is bloated vs. competition. Ford execs thing they have $8B excess cost vs comp... They recognize just cutting heads or cost here or there will not fix the problem.

“We can cut the cost, we can cut people, we can do that really quickly and we’ll do whatever we need to,” Farley said. “My job as the CEO is to make sure, far after I’m gone, that it doesn’t grow back.”

I have seen decades of Intel expanding heads, organizations and programs... When times get rough, heads are cut. However, what you will notice about Intel is that it never really changes its core processes, org design (many layers of non producers) or strategies. Intel ELT hires expensive consultants from time to time to come in and make efficiency changes. However, change and org innovation never persist because Intel culture is not designed for that. Intel culture thrives on building large bureaucratic orgs with massively redundant teams and useless processes. When was the last time a mid level manager was rewarded for suggesting wats to cut cost or redundant team?

Ford and Intel were once great companies, but if they can't build a culture and systems to innovate and re-engineer to focus on low cost from within, the failures will continue until there is nothing left. What does B school teach about mature companies in mature market? They need to focus on cost and quality as much as innovation. Intel is definitely not a lean, mean machine it runs at 2-3X the headcount per revenue dollar as competition.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/ford-says-8-billion-cost-disadvantage-is-weighing-on-profit/ar-AA17wAQM

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We had the post by PhD that works on the fabs and he said he sits around all day making sure the process recipes stay in line... He said he is way overpaid for the work he is doing but he likes that it is low stress and he goes home at 5 to play with the kids. Does that sound all that much different then an overpaid factory line worker at Ford?

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At Ford there are extremely overpaid LOW level workers whose contribution consists of standing in one place and putting a single bolt or spot weld on the assembly line. They have absolute job security. At Intel part of this equation is inverted.

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Intel is "high tech". Its has the needs to protect the leading know how, unlike Ford. So the company made sure that a few key people knew a lot, the managers knew nothing, and innovation happened in the lowest level with fresh PhDs from good engineering schools. They were smart, hard working, ambitious, but didn't know the big picture so that Intel's competitors can't benefit from poaching them.

Problems happen when those who "knew a lot": i. e. Grove and his TD heads, left, replaced by the whip cracking underlings they promoted, whom they previously made sure of not being able to threaten their own position. On top of that, US universities stopped turning out bright PhDs in silicon engineering due to funding reasons. Leading professors in integrated circuits turn to other areas like biology or administrative work.

The outlook for chip innovation is bleak in the US because of the poor domestic education in physical sciences, and our main talent source, Indian's tendency of not being very good at hands on work.

Maybe it is the time to become a Ford. Half of this ELT are already of the union organizer type. Good luck.

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Post ID: @tob+1ldc5OoE

What is different m, Ford will likely be here after the ICE is gone and EV is the thing. They missed a pivot but their business is personal transportation and can be competitive or at least survive!

Intel will be gone or just a skeleton of a company after this adventure in IDM and IFS. Barring escalation with China Intel has no chance in Foundry or being a competitive IDM with products that compete with AMDand Nvidia or Apple and other systems house.
Intel will be the Lockheed and and McDonald Douglas, remember they year to make commericial planes too!

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