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Unconventional returned the office

Does anybody have an unconventional return to office arrangement? What I mean is say May has 23 working days and if they want us in the office 60% of the time that equals just under 14 days. Curious if anybody has an arrangement where they come in the first 14 working days of the month and then work from home the rest of the month.

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@1fnf+1m4xzIoO There is no transparency around to RTO at all! And then they run out of time at the end of calls for Q&A so it can't be addressed.

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@bom+1m4xzIoO

If you look at what’s on teamworks, it just lays a baseline of having to be “in office” 3 days per week. No time requirement. It also says that LOBs are free to create guidelines that are more stringent than this general policy. But if your line of business has not communicated to you a clear time requirement, I personally would push back on anyone trying to hold only staying a few hours against you.

“If this is you communicating to me that I need to come in for longer going forward, then fine, but as until now there was no communicated expectations on time, I can’t see how previous days I was only here for x amount of time should be held against me.”

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@spp+1m4xzIoO

“The spirit of RTO.” What a joke, for half of us it’s clearly an arbitrary box-checking exercise. A policy is a policy, the rules should be clearly stated and if we meet those requirements, even in only the most pedantic technical sense, then we should expect to have no issues. If they don’t like the way people are following the policy, then they can change the rules as written and then communicate that.

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Post ID: @1fnf+1m4xzIoO

holy cow, do we really need to keep asking the same questions every other day.

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Post ID: @1lhv+1m4xzIoO

Does volunteering count?

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Post ID: @1oye+1m4xzIoO

I identify as a remote employee and Wells Fargo is in big trouble for not respecting that.

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Post ID: @dcf+1m4xzIoO

Different flavors of BS. FRTO/FNYC.

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Post ID: @bfr+1m4xzIoO

It may be LOB specific, but in my area we’ve been told that we can’t regularly do this because it is against the “spirit” of RTO. Also have been told that PTO only counts towards meeting your in office requirement within the same week… so if you take a full week of PTO you are still expected to come in three days the following week.

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Post ID: @spp+1m4xzIoO

Badge in or connect to the WF network. There's nothing more to it than that.

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Post ID: @oip+1m4xzIoO

I’m still trying to get w hat constitutes an in office “day”. Is it badge in for more than a couple of hours or is it be badged in on site for a full 8 hours? No one in my area has gotten a straight answer.

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Post ID: @bom+1m4xzIoO

So in theory if you maintained a repeating 5-1-5-1 pattern you could stay within the average without ever getting called out. But if one of your weeks that has to be 5 you can’t get in one day then you either need to take PTO or you’d get knocked down to 11 for a 4 week period.

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Post ID: @qmw+1m4xzIoO

RTO is based on 4 week increments. For a given 4 weeks you need 12 days in.

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Post ID: @iiw+1m4xzIoO

It doesn’t work by month. It goes in 4 week blocks. 4 weeks = 20 days

1 Holiday = 1 RTO
1 PTO = 1 RTO

That’s why all the averages go in 0.25 increments. For example, if you go 1 day per week for 4 weeks that’s 4/20 or 20%. 20% * 5 days is 1 day per week average. If you go one more day a week you get 5/20 or 25% * 5 which is 1.25 days per week.

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Post ID: @mli+1m4xzIoO

A few LOBs like Ops are set up for two weeks in and two weeks home.

You should run it by your manager. I've seen rolling four week average reports, so it's possible the math would still work as long as you don't change which weeks of the month

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