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Internal transfer when on 30 day RA

All the information provided says that finding an internal role in 30 days is acceptable. Is this just there for the rare exception, or will TAs consider you for an internal transfer?

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In my blue years I have seen many ppl get jobs once on the ra list. But you do have to know ppl and both new and old Mgrs have to do a lot of work.

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Post ID: @5oyv+1m6pEGok

NOT THIS TIME! as it's also (1) associated with closing-re-deployment, and (2) ONLY hires are internal. So anybody with a vetted open internal req can ONLY fill internally.

That said - you're still SOL as
(1) time is short - interviews take time and you MUST have confirmed OFFER for your manager(s) to intervene (even on May 4 is possible) otherwise automation finishes the process. To with - your manager MUST intervene with HR but can only if you have a valid offer.
(2) available jobs are few (do check internationally as many unfulfilled jobs and bots no longer reject out of country). Jobs few(er) due to re-deployed (late 2022) having 1st crack at GOM.

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Post ID: @2wek+1m6pEGok

If you survive an RA, you will still be a target. In my 12 years around here, I’ve seen a couple of survivors, they were typically skipped for any sort of reward, promotion, even the meager increases that happen every now and then. The thinking was, that letting them to keep their jobs was their reward. And then when the next ask for names to RA comes around, guess who are the top candidates? Do You really want to stay in such conditions?

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Post ID: @2pro+1m6pEGok

By the time you are told you are RA'd, your credentials in the system and payroll are already flagged for the final employment date.
Removing from the list entails rescinding notice to payroll, COBRA, fidelity, HR, security for badge to continue to work, and who knows where else your IDs and specific network access has to be retained uninterrupted.
They put a lot in planning removal so it takes a lot to undo that checklist of things that had to be done.
I am guessing on all the areas but not guessing on the fact that the day after the last scheduled work day all that was in place is suspended or removed depending on what is removable like network access and business cell phone service, if your name was visible on the web as an employee, if your email address worked or you had access to employee offers and discounts through web pages, or discount personal services, etc.

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Post ID: @2fim+1m6pEGok

Its not what you know. Its who you know.

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Post ID: @1bml+1m6pEGok

The only one I saw in over 20 years was the daughter of an SVP. It was not a good look and everyone was aware and angry. She was probably replaced on the list by whoever in HR messed that up. She was terrible and didn't even last 2 more years. Of course Dad is still there banking stacks.

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Post ID: @tzb+1m6pEGok

In my time with IBM, I saw two people out of hundreds get out of RAs and into new jobs in the company. To my knowledge, they are still there.

In addition to all the things the other posters have said with respect to timing and executive support (which are true enough), the person who gets out of a RA will have unique talents, abilities or achievements that make them obviously valuable in their new position.

The two people I saw who got off the RA list had invention and patent credits, among other achievements. They were superstar employees within their departments, scoring 1 ratings year after year. Their only "failures" were that they spent too much time in one band (for otherwise they would be promoted out of their departments).

Are you just "average"? Average salesman? Average coder? Average system administrator? Can you be easily replaced? Truth be told, most of IBM's employees fit those descriptions, no matter how good they are. They aren't unique, and from an executive's perspective those employees are all interchangeable. Those employees will not escape RAs.

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Post ID: @lzz+1m6pEGok

Before Kr-p , cr-pola.

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Post ID: @mni+1m6pEGok

Us dino babies refer to it as the BC years....before

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Post ID: @nox+1m6pEGok

Btw that was premillenial as in the Generation entering the workforce as opposed to the year.

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Post ID: @kte+1m6pEGok

@qdg It's not just a timing thing. Even if all these things line up, you are still on the hit list. You ended up there for a reason and not just because there was an RA. In the end your FLM signed off on you catching a bu//et and any hiring manager will want to know why that was. In my 25+ years (16 as a people mgr) with about 15 RAs plus the yearly culling (bottom 10 percent was routinely fired every year). Yes, premillenial we did that! In all that time, I only saw 2 people get off the RA list. So you got that going for you.

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Post ID: @wyf+1m6pEGok

There must be an existing posting to which a candidate can apply. Then the candidate must be interviewed, accepted and be transferred to the new role before the 30 days are up.

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Post ID: @qdg+1m6pEGok

The 30 day RA is very and I mean very hard to elude. Your manager, 2nd line, and 3rd line would have to support your transfer. In addition the accepting management chain along with HR and an executive VP would have to approve. Does it happen Yep BUT it’s exceedingly rare.

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Post ID: @psc+1m6pEGok

Forgettabbouttit

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Post ID: @qly+1m6pEGok

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