Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

Severance/RTO questions answered - management

This is in regards to questions about severance for RTO. It is actually quite clear.

There are two important sections: the first describes eligibility, and the second describes situations under which you'd NOT be eligible.

  • ELIGIBLE for severance: nothing too exciting here, nor relevant to RTO. The most relevant paragraph says an employee is eligible if "selected for involuntary termination by the Participating Company, including as a direct result of force surplus, technological, OPERATIONAL, ORGANIZATIONAL AND/OR STRUCTURAL CHANGES affecting AT&T...." (emphasis mine)
  • NOT eligible for severance: a lot to unpack, but basically the usual things - misconduct, performance problems (unless a force reduction was based partially on performance), eligible for benefits with another AT&T company, etc. But here is the important part. An employee is NOT eligible for severance: "if the employee voluntarily retires or resigns, or, having received a Severance Notification Letter, declines a job offer for a postiion at the same level or higher THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE RELOCATION" (emphasis mine)

So unless they try to make a case that refusing to move to another city is literally misconduct (which is a very thin case), then the key thing to remember here is to NOT voluntarily resign under ANY circumstance.

tl;dr The current severance plan does not automatically disallow severance for employees whose jobs require relocation.

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Post ID: @OP+1mFyuol5

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If asked to move from a non-hub city to Dallas/Atlanta I would use the logic your job was eliminated in the non-hub and a new job created in Dallas/Atlanta therefore you were surplused and offered a new job requiring relocation and eligible for severance

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Post ID: @bti+1mFyuol5

"It's not misconduct but it likely would be a performance issue."

I get what you're saying, and they could certainly try to spin it that way. However, there is specific verbiage in the severance policy to say that rejecting a job move that requires relocation is in fact not a reason to deny severance.

If they were to say "it's a performance issue" then it would be very much out of synch with the policy.

They CAN do anything. They could wipe out the severance policy tomorrow if they wanted. But until they do, it's unlikely that they will lay off people WITHOUT severance for not relocating.

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Post ID: @fae+1mFyuol5

Young people are targeted too. We can't relocated after putting down roots.

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Post ID: @yme+1mFyuol5

If AT&T does not offer severance to workers it is asking to relocate, I believe that they would be open to a class action law suite. The reason is that they have offered severance in the past- when they tried to force people into collaboration zones. Not doing so this time around seems to target a certain class of people for which relocation would present a burden- older people, etc. Of course, severance isn't a "right", but since they have traditionally offered this, I do believe that they would be on thin ice not to do it this time around.

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Post ID: @qwe+1mFyuol5

Stankey has the upper hand. He is trying to show all employees just how much power he has over us.

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Post ID: @ngr+1mFyuol5

"I believe they can terminate people with no severance if they don't move to wherever."

A lot of this depends on state laws too. If you are in a right to work state, good luck. Not moving to a new location could even be considered insubordination and result in no payout for unemployment as well. If you can tell, I have seen this battle play out before.

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Post ID: @ean+1mFyuol5

It's not misconduct but it likely would be a performance issue. You are expected to be at work (in a specific office) and you are not. So you are not doing what is expected of you. I believe they can terminate people with no severance if they don't move to wherever.

When push comes to shove, will there be a lot of this? Or will they make quiet deals to avoid lawsuits?

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Post ID: @asv+1mFyuol5

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