Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

RTO won't save the office

https://www.vox.com/technology/2023/5/15/23721410/return-to-office-remote-work-commercial-real-estate

The so-called “return to the office” has been underway for a while now, and it’s a bit of a mess. Sure, more people are going to the office more often than they were a year ago, but we’re still eons away from where we were before the pandemic. And despite the gains in office attendance, many office buildings themselves are in big trouble — some of which goes beyond remote work and started long before the pandemic.

So despite what you’re hearing from some bosses, things will likely never go back to the way they were.

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As of now, the data shows that a majority of workers who were able to work from home still do some (46 percent) or all (19 percent) of the time, according to the latest data from WFH Research. Before the pandemic, these numbers were in the single digits. Stanford economics professor Nick Bloom, who helps run the project, thinks the number of workers in hybrid situations might actually climb to around 60 percent, with most of the gains coming at the expense of people currently in the office full time. That outcome is already showing up in survey data, as companies who said their workers would be fully on-site last year are now switching to hybrid work.

The weak return-to-office movement means that a lot of office space is being left empty. In North America, office utilization — the number of spaces that are used as a percentage of all spaces available — is currently at about 21 percent, less than half what it was pre-pandemic, according to XY Sense, a company that uses sensors to track office occupancy. That’s consistent with data from key card swipe company Kastle, which shows US office occupancy levels to be at 50 percent of its pre-pandemic levels.

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Many of the office market’s challenges are new and have arisen since the start of the pandemic. While remote work certainly existed before the pandemic, it’s now mainstream. It can be a cheaper option for companies, and it also allows them to recruit from wider talent pools, meaning they’re likely to continue using it as a competitive advantage.

Huge cuts in the tech industry after more than a decade of rapid growth mean that the sector is no longer the largest lessor of office space. Companies like Meta, Lyft, and Salesforce, which once helped drive up prices with their huge real estate needs, have put millions of feet of office space back on the market, sending shockwaves through the real estate industry.

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None of this is to say that offices will suddenly be a thing of the past. But there will be fewer of them, and people will go to offices less frequently than they did. In time, more office space will go back to banks or, if possible, be converted to other uses like housing, laboratories, or logistics. Developers have already stopped building as much office space. The offices people do go to may be nicer, since tenants have their pick of office stock amid all the open leases. And for others, they just won’t have an office to return to.

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I would add that most companies are trending the way of WF requiring their minions to RTO. So there’s that…

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Post ID: @2fkp+1mJfyu2z

Who cares about the faces of HR. They are all to busy posting articles about our mental health. Wells Fargo drives people to mental collapse with their abuse. When I am forced to RTO I will swipe and leave. I am not sitting in that sh&thole. I have lots of plans in place to pay back this cr-p place for what they have done to employees. Catch me if you can HR!!!!!

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Post ID: @2wmy+1mJfyu2z

The entire concept of labor is changing. The “Office” environment has changed little since the 80s. Technology evolved far beyond it, and your boss no longer needs to stare at you. In fact, bosses far prefer tools, data and automations to track performance and don’t feel the need to be physically next to you. Most office jobs can be completed remotely and with better oversight than ever before. There are very effective tools that have these remote teams likely better connected than ever before.

These are all facts. The RTO push is deeper than WF though, this is everywhere. Commercial real estate is in real ‘danger’ because the old model has suddenly died. NY’s Mayor let the cat out of the bag in actually trying to require workers to return to offices. Not because it is good for business or because they love having an inflated need for hard running public services - the absence of office space will eventually crash tax revenue. It is both a political and financial challenge and that never works out well. But the old model is indeed dead… companies that maintain good tech and labor flexibility will do just fine.

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Post ID: @1zee+1mJfyu2z

I hate this place. All of it. Can’t leave fast enough. Sad to say this after 2 decades, but I just can’t do this.

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Post ID: @1knr+1mJfyu2z

@1yaj+1mJfyu2z "swipes badge,walks away" that's me--and back to my home office. FRTO!

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Post ID: @1kif+1mJfyu2z

I really wish I could see the faces of HR and anyone in leadership who upholds this weird ritual for their direct reports as they read the RTO comments. You guys are all cowards.

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Post ID: @1egu+1mJfyu2z

I can’t wait to RTO. I need coffee water toilet paper and office supplies to restock my home. Since you are making us waste our time coming back to the office we will reward and help ourselves to what we want and need. After all we work for a criminal organization.

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Post ID: @1jch+1mJfyu2z

Nothing is going to save this sh&thole. FRTO and Charlie and his minions

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Post ID: @1jdk+1mJfyu2z

@rno+1mJfyu2z

You had me at "productivity doesn't matter".

(Swipes badge, walks away)

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Post ID: @1yaj+1mJfyu2z

After you outsource all the risk, analytics, and technology to India, who do you think left to RTO??????

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Post ID: @fuf+1mJfyu2z

A company only has value when the employees give an S. Maybe a few small parts could be spun off, but no one is buying WF. Why would they?

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Post ID: @jwj+1mJfyu2z

I think everyone is misunderstanding the purpose of RTO. WF doesn’t want you to come in. It wants an easy reason to fire you. Productivity doesn’t matter when the strategy is to sell off a company that has nothing but assets and a tiny workforce.

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Post ID: @rno+1mJfyu2z

Good riddance gross buildings

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Post ID: @sgu+1mJfyu2z

FRTO

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Post ID: @pgd+1mJfyu2z

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