I recently gave my two weeks noticed and management “walked” me. Wf management then input that I was using PTO for the next two weeks. It was not my choice to not work the next two weeks. Is this legal for WF to do this?
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Hey Chinese HR leader. Good time to put out another mental health email and how you care about how we feel!!!!!!!!
They 100% can walk you (some roles with access to sensitive information will have this happen as a regular practice). However, a manager generally cannot "force you" to use your PTO as part of it... though some states with laws on "accrual" vs. use may have different practices.
It's worthy of note that you're not entitled to compensation for any unused floating/personal holidays, so always use those before turning in your notice.
If I was walked out, I'd blast Pantera's Vulgar Display of Power on my phone at full volume.
Again another example of Wells Fargo and how they treat their employees. Good for you to quit this sh&t show!
Sue them. You will win! They think they can get away with sh$t all the time. What a he$& hole! Congratulations for escaping this Insane asylum!
Welcome to “at will” employment.
Whenever you are about to give notice make sure you make copies of your PTO bank(workday). Also state when your last date of employment will be on that resignation letter.
Um, no. They cannot walk you out and then try to charge it against your earned unused PTO. Tell your manager to fix it, and/or report it to HR and find a labor attorney. I smell a settlement coming when Wells backs down.
It’s not typically an HR call, it’s more of a manager call. We’ve chosen to let people go the same day they give notice (still paid for the two weeks not make them use pto) because there was risk letting them stay. On in particular was very disgruntled and if he stayed around we were certain he would cause havoc with processing systems. As such we gave him some time to gather his stuff and escorted him out a few hours later.
I believe a large part of this decision is made based on if you have a new role at a competing bank, and/or your current job responsibilities/access to sensitive info.
If you put your resignation in writing specifically stating 2 weeks you will be paid for the 2 weeks and you would receive any accrued PTO on top of that. Fight for what is right. Call HR if your manager is not doing the right thing for you.
What I find unacceptable is that this happened to one person and yet I personally know of 4 people who were allowed to pseudo work those 2 weeks and do absolutely nothing but get paid for it. And their roles weren’t deemed necessary to backfill/replace (which everyone in our team knew they were bogus roles to begin with!)
Another WF HR inconsistent pitfall. It’s not hard to make a consistent expectation for all. Example, if the role is being backfilled/replaced, the person has work to do.
Sure, you could tell them that it's their choice to force you on vacation those weeks and you are adjusting notice to the state-required minimum, typically a few days.
But why? Your PTO would be paid out as a lump sum and potentially alter the tax liability of that pay period. The bank is technically doing you a favor by possibly saving you some taxes.
This post is another strong reminder that sometimes it's better to not give notice. Not for spite, but maybe OP (and others like them) would have rather worked the two weeks, and then be paid their PTO.
I'm neither rich nor hurting for money, but I'd rather have the PTO after my stated 2 weeks.
Unfortunately there's no way to know how this will go because everyone has a different experience. So everyone leaving has to decide what's more important to them - giving 2 weeks or maximizing your comp, even if it's only 2 weeks worth.
Yep. Giving a 2 week notice is just a courtesy; the company can let you go anytime. They know they are most likely not getting your best during that last 2 weeks so if they can cover the work, see ya. You are getting paid for any remaining pto you have that you have earned.