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Cisco copying PAN again

GSSO is pooling the TSAs now because PAN already does.

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And once they rip off one customer they don’t see them again until they try to refresh years down the line.

Ripping people off is increasing the bloat in images exponentially so you need to replace your hardware every 2-3 years to have enough flash and RAM to run them. For limited bandwidth applications in isolated networks I've seen Catalyst switches that are 25 years old still kicking along.

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Post ID: @3ljw+1mTaXQpf

I left Cisco for PAN too. We ate Cisco's lunch in security.

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Post ID: @1rdx+1mTaXQpf

Why would PAN even have Account SEs? They only sell firewalls. Tiny business. And once they rip off one customer they don’t see them again until they try to refresh years down the line.

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Post ID: @1kwv+1mTaXQpf

Fortinet is eating pans lunch. They are the one to copy.

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Post ID: @1dys+1mTaXQpf

It’s cute that you think PAN has a viable SD-WAN solution.

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Post ID: @1tey+1mTaXQpf

@1zcd+1mTaXQpf You must not be selling much if you have time to join a different company’s board.

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Post ID: @1xmk+1mTaXQpf

Ex-Cisco, work for PAN now.. We don't pool anything aside from shared CSE's, and the account SE's engage them, not the customers (generally). In terms of products, good luck Cisco.. At PAN we don't really consider Cisco a competitor on the security front, more on the SD-WAN side. I wouldnt even know how good/bad Cisco NGFW's are anymore since we simply don't run into them for new sales, just take outs.

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Post ID: @1zcd+1mTaXQpf

@1ybj+1mTaXQpf You’re right about the products but they are beaten down too. Everyone leaves there pretty quickly.

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Post ID: @1rxe+1mTaXQpf

Except PAN’s people aren’t beaten down, hating their lives and supporting cr-p products like the Cisco people are.

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Post ID: @1ybj+1mTaXQpf

Pride Area Network is big investments and unproven ROI in spine leaf bgp configs. The cisco look to merge the PAN with the Trans Area Network (rfc 19885.q) to make new business models on RON overlays and underlays. The DEI protocol is automated to maintain compliance even with Matrix.

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Post ID: @1wls+1mTaXQpf

Great idea!

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Post ID: @1zml+1mTaXQpf

copycat

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Post ID: @aus+1mTaXQpf

Makes sense. This is how every company organizes sales engineers nowadays.

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