I said this before and I'll say it again: the ELT is counting on that. They don't have nearly enough room for all of us in the hubs. Say you'll relocate, get a room for the first week, and watch what happens when everybody shows up at the same time. We should have some kind of reversal within the first month.
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Why is all the focus on forcing out 2nd levels and first levels to save money ? Is it me or can we save millions looking at eliminating layers about these front line types? Honestly what do the upper layers of management do but click there heals and node their heads yes.?
Only works if you want to stay with T and think you will survive the next round and the next. If you're not in a hub, I would suggest you seriously study any severance offer, because the involuntaries when numbers aren't met often don't have them.
So you are suggesting to move and then WFH from the new location? No thanks!
What retirement benefits?
Been with T for 4 decades and it has been the threat of layoff for 4 decades. That culture will never change in this company because of the way it is so poorly managed. If you're still young and don't have very much time with T, my suggestion is to find yourself a job with a more stable company that values its employees. My biggest regret is that I stayed with T for as long as I did. I'm quite sure I would have had a much better career elsewhere. It's the pension that kept me here! There is life outside AT&T and I suggest you look for it!
I would say, don't quit. The alternative to relocation is layoff, not a quit. Get that subsidized Cobra and any severance due on the way out the door.
Fortunately, the job market is still holding up for the moment.
Quit or stay depends on your tenure. If short of retirement bumps; stay.
If new and qualified, leave and point out your experience at T in your resume. Do you really want 20 or more years just waiting to be relocated or surplussed?
And before you show up tip off a local news crew. Would love to see this in the papers and on the big news outlets. Where’s Tucker when you need him?
"I can't decide until I get more definite word from my own leadership ,which so far has been "we are trying". AVP has gone totally quiet, even canceled the regular all hands."
Exactly the same situation here. I have some prepared plans, like" if this happens, I do this", and "if that is the case, then I will do that...", but we still have no exact details at all, and the leadership is being very quiet at the moment.
If a critical mass of folks were to show up in Dallas on their terms, best possible outcome would be the Board wakes up and fires its golden boy.
Anything less than critical mass, it would just and out of pocket exercise at our own expense when that time and money would have been better spent on the getting the next job.
Still the idea of making Stankey squirm at the Q3 analyst call appeals.
I can't decide until I get more definite word from my own leadership ,which so far has been "we are trying". AVP has gone totally quiet, even canceled the regular all hands.
This is where they are really screwing the pooch. Layoffs are arguably a good thing for the company, as they remove mostly the bottom performers. Forced relocations do the opposite, they remove only the employees that have other employment options, which inevitably are the TOP performers. Shaving employees of the top is a recipe for bankruptcy.
Regardless if you quit or if you’re laid off, leaving the company now is different than any time in the past.
When a company is still strong and you leave, you feel like maybe you were the problem. When a company is clearly on the decline and grasping at straws to stay afloat it’s completely different.
Make no mistake about it. ATT is in big trouble. Amazon plans to offer free cell service with Tmobile (stock dropped another 5% yesterday). Elon Musk already has a deal with his Starlink and Tmobile.
Guess who wasn’t even at the negotiating table? That’s right, the NOW third largest carrier, ATT.
Isn’t it ironic that while ATT failed to successfully acquire companies that were completely outside its industry, that a smaller company that ATT gave 7 billion to for nothing rose up from the ashes took their spot at number 2?
Isn’t it completely obvious that Tmobile has effective leadership while ours can’t do anything right?
Anyone leaving the company now can feel confident that you’re not leaving behind a great company where you couldn’t make it, but rather a company is on fire in a death spiral to the bottom that had to get rid of you just to keep the lights on.
Imagine yourself walking confidently to a growing company like Tmobile while you leave behind this flaming bag of dog sh*T behind you.
I believe the opposite. Do quit. The ELT deserves the karma from such a brain drain and the impacted deserve an escape from the toxicity. This is a sinking ship and it is being looted rather than patched.