Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

Pay equals effort

Our manager is trying to squeeze us in every way. If I'm going to be so overwhelmed and exhausted, then I'd rather do it in another company for higher pay.
They can't understand that people need to be paid more if they want them to meet higher expectations?

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Post ID: @OP+1mlpNro4

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With OP's mindset, when does the cycle ever end? When is enough ever enough? That culture of entitlement won't get you anywhere. Impactful results count, nobody cares about how much or how "hard" you work. Go try your luck elsewhere, let us know how that's working out for you.

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Post ID: @1mqz+1mlpNro4

"With time, good productivity and proven ability to do more work and take on more responsibility will be recognized"

ROTFL

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Post ID: @1era+1mlpNro4
They can't understand that people need to be paid more if they want them to meet higher expectations?

I've been a manager at other companies and money is at best a very short term incentive. Cisco more than any company I worked for ignored decades of research into effective management.

Having been at Cisco in the high flying stock options days I can assure you that compensation wasn't even remotely correlated to either effort or results. Having been there after the stock went from $82 to $8 and seeing many people with political connections and negative talent (they actually destroy the talent of the people around them) get promoted that lack of correlation remained.

...I'd rather do it in another company for higher pay.

I'd rather be young and handsome. Some things just aren't meant to be.

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Post ID: @1byr+1mlpNro4

No, people don't simply get paid more for more effort.

Results are what count, the effort to produce those results are the true measure.

With time and experience, it should take the same employee less effort to provide more results, and more productivity.

The primary job of management is to drive productivity and control cost. The primary job of the employee is to provide results at an increasingly easier effort to themselves, and to build new process efficiencies to allow more work to be done more quickly; more effectively.

Money has nothing to do with the above equation. Actually if the employee has the expectation of being increasingly paid more simply for more effort; they will spend their career lost and frustrated, always expecting more pay for more effort.

Focus on increasing productivity, being able to do streamline the work by minimizing time and effort; that will free up extra time to take on additional tasks, or even additional work roles.

With time, good productivity and proven ability to do more work and take on more responsibility will be recognized; only then is a promotion or raise in order.

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Post ID: @1xoh+1mlpNro4

Why pay when you rule by fear?

They just churn through people. Always more suckers to sign up. If they want more later, LR time.

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