So now that you can see on Workday who is classified as remote, I see that when I travel a few managers up the chain, almost 2/3 of my IT group is classified as remote. This surprised me as my boss made sure to tell me repeatedly I had to come into the office.
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@1ctl+1n5ITXe7 We already lost, I watched all our top talent leave over the last two years
That's what the hacks in NYC want, but like most of their plans it will fail. This regime will exit in a year or two and the employees will win the Great RTO War. Resistance is not futile. Production happens at home. Company approved goofing off happens in a useless, expensive, and inefficient office.
They can change you from remote to RTO in the drop of a hat. Means absolutely nothing.
You clearly are not the chosen one(s)
Everyone is going back to the office period. There will be very few exceptions. If you want to work remote time to find another company.
@gez
Remote exception for medical accommodation IS attached to the job/role and not the person (hence why you can’t automatically transfer it to another role). Makes no sense that medical issue is tied to a job/role and not a person. Both HR and business mgt have to approve MA. Humiliating that the everyone needs to know about medical issue that used to be private. TBH, I can't believe this is allowed.
Almost 30,000 employees are remote. And many are in hub cities. And there are a lot of remote workers who just recently received promotions.
One would think upper mgmt wouldn't find it advantageous to hold the threat of layoffs over remote workers for years. If they had a better track record, maybe it wouldn't need to be said. Management is a bunch of people over compensated regardless of successes or failures where the rest of us minions are not afforded the same.
Managers: More transparency, less templated corporate speak, treat us better
I am remote.
I have also heard from 2 different Directors that the long term plan is to have everyone not on a medical accommodation in an office and/or hub. Period.
CS believes fully in this and his directs and below are expected to support it.
Also you’ll be hard pressed to find a Hiring Manager that is going to go against that. I’m sure there may be one or two, but absolutely not the majority. Imagine going to the OC and asking for this exception. So career mobility as a remote at WF is also now extremely limited.
Charles just needs to suck it up and apologize for being wrong again.
This would really just be sour grapes. What’s the theoretical business case for that that goal? I mean having no remote exemptions at all is intentionally limiting your talent pool to everyone with the skills/experience necessary for a given role within a certain mileage of a hub, when it could be literally anyone with said skills/experience who lives within a reasonable time zone of the other employees they’ll be collaborating with. It looks especially nonsensical given that most LOBs aren’t restricted to a single hub anyway, not to mention all the support teams overseas. I will never, ever have a single meeting where no one is dialed in unless it’s a 1:1, and seeing as my manager is on the other side of the country even that would be pretty rare. For all intents and purposes I am a fully remote worker, I’m just required to work remotely from a specific building on a specific LAN for at least part of 3 days per week.
I believe in time ALL remote exception peeps will be let go by the company in some manner. Long term plan, anyway. But who knows if CS will be here for as long as it will take to come to fruition.
It’s not easy to just chop off thousands of people in every business line without replacements ready to take over that workload.
What’s interesting is that I’ve been told that a remote exception (not medical accommodation) is attached to the job/role and not the person (hence why you can’t automatically transfer it to another role).
Seems like an awful lot of inconsistencies if you and your team have the same roles…. Legal repercussion possibilities to consider here….
I am fully remote as well and have been since I have started here a few years ago. But I am sure my time is coming soon as well and I am looking for it.
Rules for thee...
Don’t go by what is in the system. None of this has been updated. Everyone is going to RTO
@xxb Where did you hear that? Our group is mostly remote and have haven’t heard anything in about bringing in people that just have an exception (not HR related). There are people on our team that were hired remote and never been in an office.
'They' are looking at all the tech remote people region by region. Only those with HR documented medical reasons will be allowed to continue remote. Termination for all others.
I'm full time remote but will be laid off soon due to the closing of our site. Many before me were laid off in the recent months and the main reason was we don't have an office to work the hybrid schedule so I wouldn't be surprised if your remote coworkers are let go soon