Thread regarding Honeywell International Inc. layoffs

Honeywell HQ was moved to Charlotte for tax breaks and to put DA closer to his mountain home. He wanted to minimize his time to get to his drunken place. Plus, I bet he has a driver and doesn't have to deal with the panhandlers and traffic to get to work. The rest of us? We are on our own.

I made the move to Charlotte believing all the bull, biggest mistake EVER! It is true that it is a complete sh1thole that is overpriced and lifeless (except for the crime). Confirm that it is pretty rough and getting worse. I could never recommend moving here.

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To your point, when they arrived in Charlotte, they quickly discovered that quality people cost just as much or more in NC as they did in NJ, and very few from NJ wanted to go live in the cesspool that Charlotte is. They had all kinds of trouble recruiting for positions in Charlotte and key roles remained open month after month. They ended up having to hire contract people to fill the void. After all, who wants to get accosted and panhandled every time they arrive for work or leave in the evening? The crime rate in Charlotte makes the worst cities in NJ look like Disney World!

I was warned before I joined hon and didn’t believe it. It’s all true. I have decades of experience and executive level relationships with clients. My manager has no experience but overflows with condescending entitlement. He forces us to spend hours and hours on pointless charts and reports so he can pretend to know something. It’s like a bad version of GE and Office space combined. I complained and HR told me to find another role that I’m happy with. HR also has zero experience or value to add. They immediately suggested we “start my transition” rather than fix the problems. It was shocking. I started looking for a job working for actual grown ups and found out that the word is out and the HON brand is cr-p in the industries. Clients don’t call back anymore and customer events are like funerals, quiet and sad. Experienced talent have all heard the stories and won’t join. HON is going to become a low cost India based company or die slowly. There will simply not be enough people to sell or deliver. I resigned last week and just wish someone would call me back to pick up my phone and laptop. It’s the strangest company. It feels like a pretend store front that once you open the door, it’s a fake movie set with mannequins and no actual people.

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@1agy Yeah I had a "Senior Technical Manager" about a decade ago in Areo.
Great guy. Spent about 20% of his time managing, 40% working with the folks in the group on their projects and 40% working on his own projects. This business model worked out very well. Then they wanted him to take on a bunch more direct reports. He said no thanks and we all got a new manager. Down hill from there.

Honeywell is broken, I mean really broken.
A change of CEO could only rectify that if they brought in someone outside of Honeywell with a proven track record AND the board gave him freedom and exposed the true state of the business.
They did not do that, VK is an easy puppet and so the story will continue. Remember when DC became CEO they barred him from looking at the true financials, that tells you all you need to know. Honeywell will be half the size in 5 years.

Its getting that bad to the point that aero is exporting their senior level execs to other businesses in hope of salvaging what little business thats left but not knowing that aero execs only MO is to milk every drop and then desert it just in time for a plant downsize. This company will last but with a much smaller presence globally and even much smaller print in the industry among its peers. Wipe away all the gibberish about new product launches mentioned during townhalls which is essentially just old products wrapped in new paper.

Z Nation remember the zombies. Crawling over the top of each other you get up the wall.
The Young and the lazy act this way. No experience needed. I can see how aerospace is in the mess it is. I think a gorilla could run this place better.

You might not like to answer. The real management left long time ago. They all know about the 50% plants reduction.

So they know they're going to close these sites, just put anybody in there to keep it running until the date of the closure approaches.

Scrap and rework will be super high. So when they have they all hands on meeting, they can say the cost of doing business as skyrocketed in your area. In order to justify the plant closure.

When corporate left New Jersey. They said they were going to North Carolina. Because they couldn't find enough qualified workers. Nice way of saying we want to find qualified workers with less pay.

This is the truth. Heck! It might even be more than 50% reduction in rooftop reduction.

Echoing many of the smart posts....HON is fully committed to top-down management. This requires a lot of "yes men." Skill and independent thinking are in diametric opposition to this philosophy. So...hire useful eee diots to carry out all the directives from above. It's super simple. Here's the plan:

1. hire lazy "pure managers" who enjoy passing down all their work so they can sit in meetings with upper management all day;
2. hire self-centered people who only worry about managing up and getting promoted;
3. hire people who have no better alternatives...so that their loyalty is bought and their hours are unlimited;
4. rinse, repeat

Follow the schedule below for success:
4 hours lunch, breaks and socializing
2 hours of meetings
2 hours of working on the widget

Managers are not suppose to do the technical work. They are there to flow down orders and mitigate conflict before if bubbles up enough to annoy a director.

They purged the technical managers that had a clue 3 years ago. At least in aero.

Entry level person here. I realized I was screwed a month into my job. My manager is one of the worst human beings I have ever known. She treats people like dirt, refuses to provide any training, and blames people for not magically knowing how to the job we weren’t trained for.

I never wanted this. I have brought up my concerns to her just to be told to shut up and not talk about my work. I recognize that this is horrible for the company, my coworkers, and myself.

I’ve been applying to jobs for a months but have had no luck so far. Until then, I will keep my complaints to myself in order to make it through each day.

Plenty of "child managers" too d-mb to know they are being set up to throw under the bus.

Because anyone with experience avoids Honeywell, full stop. They are bleeding talent from the inside and no one takes this joke of a company seriously anymore. No one to apply for internal roles + experienced people steering clear of this dumpster fire = hiring kids and inexperienced people for key roles. The entire company is literally crumbling and rotting from the top down.

I have refused many director level roles, much to the amazement and anger of my boss. He just can't understand why I am choosing to not get even more exploited by this place than I already am.

Same is true on the shop/production floors. The younger Bnosers and flirts have no qualms about climbing over the backs of their experienced coworkers to get promoted. With few exceptions they are the least qualified and have little dignity to worry about.

It's an open secret that many of the open internal job reqs already have a name attached when posted, or they are ghost reqs, so most don't bother applying. The experienced get fed up, quit, or take an early retirement.

Even the few inexperienced new hires that they can get past substance & background checks are being paid more than people who have been there 2 - 5 years. We were told that the answer is to hire more temp workers!

The culture is built on fear and intimidation. The leaders who dairy a-s promoted were yes men who don’t have independent thoughts or push back. They’re also cr-ppy leaders so they are insecure and protecting their millions of gravy train money every year. They then hire leaders who know less than themselves so they feel unchecked in their ineptitude. Sadly over time the quality of leadership has eroded so low, they are forced to hire completely inexperienced people to join in order to add people who know less than themselves.

UOP was the last bastion of high quality and they gave us Hanky and now Kenny and hired in Meany Deany.

That’s what happens when nobody inside applies for the job. Qualifications for manager at Honeywell read like a jury selection questionnaire..
Have you ever used a Honeywell product?
Have you or a relative worked at Honeywell in a non-executive role?
Do you have any moral compass or self respect?

Any “yes” disqualifies.

Wow, I thought our team was a one off in putting clearly inexperienced and incompetent employees in senior positions over talented and experienced employees. Is there an active mandate to destroy Honeywell from within?

Friends and family of the anointed go straight to the head of the line. I recall a mannequin who sat it an office doing nothing and only met with his group once every six months.

I’m not even talking mangers exclusively- while that’s also a problem- I see them doing this in non- management positions now as well. Then tasking them with leading department initiatives and expecting the people left that do know what they’re doing (held at a lower level and lower pay) to follow these know-nothings. Right into the brick wall.

Honeywell considers senior level management to be nothing more than paper pushers and order givers. Honeywell does not feel that it is necessary for a manager to understand the functions that they are managing. Thus, failure.