Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

LINEMAN VIEW.. they knew!!

Yep, I installed and terminated thousands of miles of that toxic cable back in my days, when I was working for AT&T it was well known that there were vast swathes of our older areas where the aerial cable was lead-sheathed. Not only is it a health-hazard, but it's also cr-p cable that doesn't work well for anything beyond POTS. They have strung up a lot of fiber on those old poles, but as far as I'm aware they left the old lead cable in place.

The garbage about it not being an issue due to coatings and whatnot is just that, garbage. This is ancient cable that has been left to rot. It gets damaged, it gets burnt up in fires, it definitely gets into the environment.

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Post ID: @OP+1nC2tR81

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They will probably win too, because juries hate corporations.

I guess it's hard for T employees to understand why they're so hated given what a fabulous place to work T is

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Post ID: @2ymk+1nC2tR81
We’ve used specialized chopping trucks to pull and remove old lead for years when it was being replaced by pic or fiber cables.

Surprisingly we didn't have any specialized vehicles in the west.

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Post ID: @2xgk+1nC2tR81

FCC we have to abandon dialtone because of lead. Finally

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Post ID: @1ucf+1nC2tR81

I have 25 yrs in the SE as a splicer/FT, have worked with or repaired a lot of lead splices and cables, both in construction and repair during my career. I never installed lead but removed a lot or abandoned it in some situations. We’ve used specialized chopping trucks to pull and remove old lead for years when it was being replaced by pic or fiber cables. It’s then sent to the appropriate recycling centers to handle from there.

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Post ID: @1peq+1nC2tR81

The risk of lead exposure is vastly overblown for anyone beyond puberty. Of course, that won't stop the ambulance chasers from trying to cash in on a class action. They will probably win too, because juries hate corporations.

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Post ID: @1mrb+1nC2tR81

@1tey….seemed off to me too! Best I recall lead placement stopped in the early 60s at the absolute latest(even in the most podunk of all places). That would have OP in his 80s’at least.

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Post ID: @1yjk+1nC2tR81

Don’t have to worry about any of our “cable repairmen” getting lead exposure. They’ll just cut it from the CO to the customer….safety first!!

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Post ID: @1rvh+1nC2tR81

I would thing aerial would be good news. Easy to take down. Underground? That would be a problem.

I would think some metals company would help with the takedown of the cables in exchange for the metals in the cable, including lead.

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Post ID: @1lwq+1nC2tR81

You placed miles of lead cable? Are you a hundred years old? Lead migrated to plastic in early 1940s.
I’m sure you’ve worked on it but placed it? No. You’ve discredited yourself.

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Post ID: @1tey+1nC2tR81
Just by Following safety protocols means nothing,

What safety protocols?

It's all tribal training. The company no longer sends us to lineman school.

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Post ID: @fwa+1nC2tR81
The garbage about it not being an issue due to coatings and whatnot is just that, garbage.

I've wrecked some out.

Wear gloves (and mask if provided) when handling them.
Toss out gloves in hazmat bin.
The lead cable is disposed of as hazmat.

Nah... not toxic at all!!!

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Post ID: @rhq+1nC2tR81

Cable splicers scuffed up lead cable for years with no protection…..then sometime in the 80’s they came out with Lepec a solution wiped on the sheath to prevent it from going airborne….they gave us paper devo coveralls to wear as well.

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Post ID: @vnc+1nC2tR81

We were just told to wear gloves when we removed it from underground manhole runs or worked with it in any other capacity. Other than that there was no mention of the possible dangers of it.

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Post ID: @ync+1nC2tR81

Company always supplied proper safety equipment to use when working with lead. Most cities in the northeast have lead pipe water service lines leading to their homes. Calm down it’s not what you think.

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Post ID: @fha+1nC2tR81

there are safety procedures for installing or removing lead cables.if it scares you go sit in the truck

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Post ID: @viw+1nC2tR81

Just by Following safety protocols means nothing, Having too much exposure in your body can affect certain organs in your body, kidneys lead-related nephrotoxicity,

What are the OSHA guidelines for lead?
Permissible exposure limit (PEL).

The employer shall assure that no employee is exposed to lead at concentrations greater than fifty micrograms per cubic meter of air (50 µg/m3) averaged over an 8-hour period.

My guess is that 100% of techs have not idea about such exposure. Just like with asbestos back in the 80s

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Post ID: @jki+1nC2tR81

I have heard lots of techs over the years having health issues- specifically kidney- did the lead cause this?

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Post ID: @wqi+1nC2tR81

Well, this is the kind of informative post we need.
I did work for the NJUNS, OSMOSE pole transfer Units in the southeast, coordinated with the power companies. 'Never remove.. Just reattach!, We were told.
My crew received Nemo's related to Lead clad exposure can cause kidney, heart, and reproductive problems in adults, and it's classified as a probable carcinogen, is so toxic that even gnawing pests can't harm in general.
I still do have them if anyone wants to see them!.

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Post ID: @aly+1nC2tR81

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