Thread regarding Bank of New York Mellon Corp. layoffs

Interns are overrated and just a marketing ploy

I think most people will remark about how far this company has gone downhill and how it feels like a more antiquated company compared to its peer in the industry. But every year there are hundreds of posts on LinkedIn celebrating BNYM's next batch of interns - lavish lunches, lots of meetings with senior leadership, and other events the average employee isn't invited to. My gut reaction says this is just a ploy to make BNYM appear to be a hip place to work and they even throw in some eye candy within the batch of interns, qualifications not important! These senior leaders put up one heck of a facade but behind closed doors they are quite nasty. In reality, though, these interns are treated so much better than regular employees despite the fact that most won't even end up applying here when they graduate.

But here's the other problem. Morale is low across the board because the work has gotten crazy, but we've had layoffs and people who have left on their own because it's gotten so bad. We're an extreme skeleton crew now. I was forced to take on one intern , but it's been a disaster. Nice kid, but we can't find stuff for her to do that adds value. Based on the role of our group, even the most basic stuff will end up needing someone else from the team to double check the work when in reality, that employee would've saved time if she or he did it themselves without involving an intern.

I've had this experience for years now in different roles (been here 15 years) and during intern season, we end up taking more time out of our day to find something for our interns to do.

The emerging leader program has similar flaws, but at least these people end up doing some actual work for at least a year; though in my experience, they quickly leave the company despite coming in at a paygrade higher than their peers who had to start from the bottom.

In some ways, I feel bad to have these opinions. It's not the interns' fault - they keep a positive attitude (even if it doesn't appear genuine) and want get some real experience, but it usually doesn't happen like that. Still, it's pretty tacky that BNYM will treat its interns like royalty while giving long-tenured employees the shaft.

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Todays’ interns will be managing directors in 4 years.

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Post ID: @hzub+1nJfFdCH

The only ELP I knew as about ten years ago and she was like the brownnoser who sat in the front of the class with a 115 IQ. Spent all her time doing training and abusing all the other perks we had at the time. The fact that she was in her early 20's and 50 lbs overweight says all you need to know about here self discipline.

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Post ID: @3fgm+1nJfFdCH

@tut

Don’t worry about down votes on this forum. Down votes only mean that you wrote the truth and the slackers here saw themselves in your post.

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Post ID: @2pjw+1nJfFdCH

@2fib this is the truest statement I’ve read! It’s not about hiring who can do the work. It’s about hiring the right color/gender - if you can even do that these days since people like to identify as animals if they want. This world is so eff’d up!

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Post ID: @2ujx+1nJfFdCH

The interns have been hit or miss (mostly miss), but the ELPs are decent. Unfortunately the good ELPs leave after 2 or 3 years since that's when they've earned enough experience to start applying for non-junior dev positions elsewhere. The subpar ones will stick around in BNY for years without getting promoted, never becoming the leaders they were told to be.

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Post ID: @2jid+1nJfFdCH

@tut must not have enough to do if he has time to babysit interns. And their work is likely so simple and repetitive that even Roman could automate it.

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Post ID: @2mei+1nJfFdCH

The company is more concerned with hiring minorities than people actually qualified to do the work. Look at us… we hired x% of women and x% of African Americans and x% of LGBTQ and whatever other letters people are throwing in there these days. What they don’t tell you is that equals 0% of people that know how to do the job. But hey at least we have our diversity!

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Post ID: @2fib+1nJfFdCH

@tut

Simply amazing how everything good is downvoted here.

What happened to you people?

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Post ID: @2qtz+1nJfFdCH

It is true new employees will get more because switching employers is a faster way to increase your income than staying to wait for a promotion that takes forever to hit. That’s true everywhere but that’s not what this topic is about. Took me 10 years to learn this the hard way but better than taking 20 years.

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Post ID: @2fcq+1nJfFdCH

How can internships be a marketing ploy? That makes no sense.

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Post ID: @1uyj+1nJfFdCH

Jealous of new employees. Sad.

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Post ID: @1wxz+1nJfFdCH

H1B interns are the best. Especially the ones Uncle Todd hired.

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Post ID: @hem+1nJfFdCH

These interns are just resume building. They are always on their phones and goofing around.

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Post ID: @pcb+1nJfFdCH

Finally, someone said it. The real problem with the Bank: interns.

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Post ID: @lkd+1nJfFdCH

My interns are completely amazing. No matter what task they are given they complete it, they want to know what else they can do, they want to know what else they can learn, they sit in on calls, they meet, clients they go to client meetings. They are being sponges and soaking it all in. Maybe you just have unmotivated interns because you don't want to motivate them. The task may be just too much work for you.

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Post ID: @urs+1nJfFdCH

I’ve never experienced problems in finding projects for interns, emerging leaders and other similar programs. Many that I’ve mentored and managed have now been stars for 20 to 25+ years and counting. To be honest, this reads to me that you aren't good at delegating and mentoring.

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