Thread regarding Ford layoffs

If you work at Ford and don't drive a Ford then GTFU.
Nuff said.

I sold my 2020 Escape to a neighbor. It had a gutless 3 cylinder POS engine and was easily the worst car that I ever owned next to my first car, a used 1978 Buick Skylark. I now drive a Toyota RAV4 and love it!

As soon as I was eligible for retirement I was out and as soon as the pension payment and all other monies due to me were safely in my accounts, I purchased a brand new Lexus.

It is a shame that it had to be this way but I could never again support woke Ford for what it has become.

"...their engineering processes..."

Rigid "engineering processes" are useless. What a company needs are people that know what they are doing. The lower ranks figure out what to do and how to do it. The upper ranks of management negotiate what needs to be done.

What Ford (and other big companies) want is to delude themselves into thinking all they need is a perfect process and then employees become replaceable cogs.

How's that workin' out for ya FoMoCo?

I purchased my first Ford two years ago after being hired as a Ford direct employee. In terms of quality it’s the worst vehicle I’ve owned in 30+ years. After experiencing their engineering processes (I use that term VERY loosely) I’m not at all surprised by their quality issues. I’ll be selling it as soon as I can. (I’d already decided that before I was laid off last month.) All future purchases will be a Subaru or Toyota.

I was let go end of June! Can’t wait to offload all Ford products. All of my friends & family no longer feel obligated to purchase Ford. Looking at either Toyota or Jeep.

I've driven Ford products most of my life. Now that I'm retired from Ford I'm seriously looking at other companies. I'm not angry or disgruntled, I just think I need to look at my options when my Lincoln lease ends in December. My last few cars have had electrical problems and I couldn't wait for those leases to expire. I definitely won't buy an EV if they can't make the basic stuff work properly.

SIRP'd last August and I will never buy a Ford again. That also goes for my spouse, kids, and every other relative that used to get PINs from me. Currently looking at a Toyota truck and a minivan. 30 years of Ford loyalty is a distant memory. It's my personal mission to deny Ford at least the amount of money they "saved" by kicking me to the curb just short of 30 years of service. I'm half way there already! On top of that I'm maxing out my medical spending after meeting my deductible with all kinds of tests and expensive visits.

I looked at the Model Y but I also can't charge at home. I worry about Tesla battery longevity when you use the superchargers almost all of the time. There are a lot of opinions that slower charging equates to longer battery life so I passed.

I ended out buying a Honda and I'm happy with it.

My elderly neighbor brought a Focus with DPS6 transmission and only 40k miles from Carvana. Somehow we have got to get those vehicles off the road.

picked up a model y for my daily driver earlier this month. first ev, also first non ford. I drive a lot and can't charge at home so the network really made the call.

Felt a little guilty and told myself its basically just a compliance car for my needs. going on a month now and I think it's my favorite car I've owned :-/

GSR8 engineer here, I only buy older Fords/Lincolns that are pre-Sync, pre-Ecoboost. I will find a vehicle out West or down South, fly out and drive it back when I'm ready for a change. Simple is good, simple is cheap and easy to fix when the time comes.

Have a 2015 Fusion, never bought a car since then. Leased a BMW, have always wanted to try one. No more Ford's in our family once the Fusion is out of commission. Probably a Lexus or Toyota as the next car I buy.

My leased 2022 Edge still having 9 month to go; Does Ford Credit allow me to trade-in with different company's car?

Like I posted before, my brother and Dad were both let go from Ford. My mom traded in her edge for a Grand Highlander, my dad got rid of his F150 finally and bought a Tundra. Like I said before, Ford lost 4 future sales.

I left Ford as a LL6 in 2006 after 13 years. The next month I bought a new 2006 Honda Accord. I now drive a 2009 Honda Accord.

I couldn't imagine myself ever walking into a Ford dealership. Every Ford vehicle I ever had broke my heart.

My new 1995 Ford Escort came from the factory with an inoperable dome light. It took 4 dealer visits to get it working.

My new 1996 Ford Contour was a semi-lemon. The dashboard had gaps big enough to almost stick a slice of bread through. The fuel filler door quit opening with the lever on the inside (a common problem on all Ford's at the time with plastic fuel doors). The plastic timing belt cover was made too small on the 2.0L Zetec engine (design flaw), so the timing belt would hit the cover on cold starts, making a sound like noisy valves.

My 1998 Mercury Sable management lease car had a defective hood latch (common problem). It took me 1 hour to open the hood to check the oil before a vacation.

My 1999 Mustang GT convertible left the factory with a gap between the driver's side front and rear window, causing wind noise. It could not be fixed. The mechanic in the lease car garage at WHQ stated, "What do you expect? This is not a BMW." That Mustang was a $26,000 car, a lot of money in 1999!

Those cars were exemplars of quality compared to my 2000 Ford Focus. It was not a lemon; it was a lemon grove. It left Wayne Assembly Plant with a noisy serpentine belt. Brake dust would soil the wheels after one drive (defect due to a last minute supplier change of brake pads switch by Ford). Those were minor problems compared to the never solved problem after numerous attempts of the engine dying on the highway. The car left me stranded during a business trip to Ohio and a vacation to Colorado.

The Maxdas were fantastic cars though. I had a 2002 Mazda Protégé as a management lease car. That is the highest quality car I've ever had in my life. It had the build quality of a Rolls-Royce and nothing broke in a year of driving. My next lease car was a 2003 Mazda Protégé with the same result.

My 2004 Ford Escape wasn't bad except that the plastic bodyside molding at the bottom of the driver's door would nearly come off each time the door was opened. I would just bang it back in place with my fist. To Ford's credit, it never fell completely off.

My 2005 Mazda 6 built at Flat Rock was a fantastic car! I never had an ounce of trouble with it. I drove it from Michigan to Seattle and back in 1 week (5000 miles). It easily cruised at 90 mph out West. I wanted to keep that lease car forever.

My last lease car was a 2006 Ford Fusion. Other than bland styling, it was a high quality vehicle designed by Mazda. I never had one problem with it.

The sad news is that Ford quality was higher back in the 1990s and 2000s than it is now!!!!

It's too bad Ford sold its stake in Mazda. They make fantastic products still today.

If someone gave me a new Ford today, I would sell it immediately and get a Honda or Mazda. If you ever see me in a Ford dealership after the lemons I had as an employee, you know that I am in the late stages of dementia or Alzheimer's.

I think he means he was a blue striper Ford employee (hired in). Not that this should make a difference IMO. Buying to show loyalty or to make a political statement without looking at quality or resale is probably foolish.

Times are not great, you should buy the most reliable daily driver that meets your needs. If you want a second car as a toy then that's different.

What’s a Subaru blue badge?

Mustang & Ram pickup

2019 Honda Odyssey. Really happy with it

I wanted something about the size of the Escape a few years ago. I bought a Hyundai Tousan that was less expensive with more options than A plan. I also got 0% financing. I bought it during covid, before the chip crisis so it was a really great deal.

I love my Subaru Forester. Blue badge and had planned to buy an Escape when hired in. But the dealership experience was so bad I ended up at a Subaru dealership. Was treated great, better price and have never had an issue. Best car I’ve ever owned.

I will pedal a bicycle before I buy another Ford. I stand corrected, I will never buy another Ford. If I was to pedal a bicycle it would make Billy super super happy that I’m not contributing to climate change.

Chevy and Jeep. Sc--w Ford.

I drive a 1981 Delorian dmc-12 modified by Dr.Brown for time travel.

Considering Chevy truck when my F150 lease is up. Toyota was glad they dumped JF. I will not support Billy the backstabber. DS

Selling my Ford hatchback end of this month. Hopefully I will get enough to renew my auto insurance. Planning to get a Kia.

@OP. Green Badge still here. I was never able to justify the prices of Ford vehicles. Believe me, I tried. I always find something better priced, and better adapted to my needs (I don't like trucks). I used to drive Toyota, then switched to Mazda a few years ago (more sporty driving), and so far, I am happy with them.

Only two Ford vehicles have caught my attention: Mustang (the real ones, not the Mach-e) and the new Maverick. The Mustang brand is having a lot of issues in recent years, while getting a Maverick is a long wait.

I am not sure if the id--ts in charge know this, but consumers don't like waiting. Yes, sometimes you can plan accordingly, but for many people life happens: lease is up, vehicle is acting up o requires expensive repairs, car crash, etc. So I chose a sure bet (Mazda parked in dealership) instead of settling for a maybe (Is Ford ever going to honor the orders on hold?). The more I see how deeply fu---d this company is, the more I am glad I didn't pick a Ford vehicle.

When (IF) this company finds the way back to make decent vehicles, with a good customer protection, and using actual solutions to recalls instead of workarounds (who the f thought that drilling holes in the belly-pan was an actual solution?), then I'll consider Ford vehicles again.

Firstly, is this question being asked of Ford employees only? Or perhaps this question is being asked of anyone who may have stumbled upon this site / post? I would re-edit the OP to make it clear who you are asking. I'll start by saying I'm not a Ford employee nor have I ever been employed. I am somewhat loyal and currently driving a GMC 2500 PU. It's a 2020 and currently have 40K on the odometer. Thus far, no issues other than the minor things to be expected form a big3 auto. If you care, my long term plans are to keep at least 10 years. Also, I'm planning on installing a 5th wheel bed attachment as the FAM is lookin to purchase an RV in the next 2 years. Before anyone asks, yes I know RV stands for "ruined vacation." I'm willing to roll the dice as we have always wanted to set out and see more of the country. And before anyone asks, no we did no consider the lightening. Although a fantastic looking truck, I don't think it soul suit my goals for the long term future. If you are wanting to know main dislikes, it's mainly fuel economy (LOL). I guess it goes with the territory of a truck. Main likes are the powertrain and rather nice ride. I do suppose most vehicles this days check these2 boxes but I do appreciate them nonetheless. Not sure if this helped the OP?

I was a Mustang and Thunderbird owner since I was 18, decades ago. V8 and 429 engines. I will never own, lease or rent another Ford vehicle.

The escape is more expensive than the rav 4 even with the A Plan. The reliable highlander is about 3k cheaper than the consumer reports ‘do not buy’ exploder. Heck even the all new tundra is 4k cheaper than a f150… all considering A plan pricing.
Buy a ford out of loyalty only for your job to be transferred to India or Mexico or Brazil in the next quarter, why?

Lincoln. Its older, so still a good car. Pre-Hackett/Farley era.

Toyota

I’ll start: I drive a Toyota. It’s the first non-Ford car I bought in the last 20 years.