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Bad manager at Cisco - What should I do?

Is it possible to request a new manager? My current one I’ve had for a year , she is generally unresponsive , demanding. A poor listener. She is also a poor worker and it has reflected badly On our whole team as she fails To do good work and engage us properly. There have also been times she is straight up rude / mean. She even took a week pto and left without telling anyone on our team. Who does that?!

What is my Best course of action?

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Post ID: @OP+1nUn7N7T

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The beatings will continue until morale improves.

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Post ID: @ghmk+1nUn7N7T

The 91's sure are good at gate keeping.
It's almost like their whole society was built on classism and nepotism.

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Post ID: @gkzz+1nUn7N7T

Definitely get out while you have a good life. I spent a po-p ton of years drinking the Cisco kool-aid. For my loyalty I was hacked of with a new company and then the did work force reduction… got nice severance… 1 year later was hired in and 8 months later another wfr…

Well I did get a sweet se eranc again..,

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Post ID: @fjdj+1nUn7N7T

Move on to a competitor or start a side hustle. Good people are hard to find

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Post ID: @dury+1nUn7N7T

This calls for an epic salvo of explosive diarrhe@ during the LR notification session. Webex will never be the same.

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Post ID: @2crn+1nUn7N7T

Er … sorry … WHAT did you say ?

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Post ID: @1pws+1nUn7N7T

organize your whole team to hand in resignation at the same day, it will definitely bring attention to her boss and HR

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Post ID: @1phx+1nUn7N7T

A friend at Cisco was told by HR that a change their manager was proposing to their role was not right and therefore they should not accept it. My friend went to talk to the manager following HR's guidance and quickly realized the conversation with the boss was going nowhere. So my friend threatened to open an official case with HR. Suddenly even HR was not supportive anymore. Next LR my friend was on the list.

Many people get promoted to the highest levels with lots of HR complaints at Cisco and it means nothing because they have a sponsor who protects them. Cisco will protect their leaders and rebellion is not welcomed. Try to find a new role inside and just leave this boss.

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Post ID: @1hxj+1nUn7N7T

Report "anonymously" yeah right...

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Post ID: @1hyz+1nUn7N7T

I think going above your managers head and complaining to HR might backfire. But I would recommend researching other teams close to yours that might have an opening for you. I feel for you though because I’ve been stuck with a few bad managers before and it’s exhausting. I hope you find a better fit!

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Post ID: @amf+1nUn7N7T

Bad managers are everywhere, good luck finding one you like. Ever done "needle in a haystack" game?

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Post ID: @fwj+1nUn7N7T

You can try to report it to HR or the Ethics Committee as @zkb+1nUn7N7T said, but don't expect anything to happen except for your life/work environment to get worse. I won't say that Cisco management and/or HR will retaliate against you, but they will make your life he-l.

I had a great manager who finally got fed up and quit. Everyone under this manager rolled up to his boss until a replacement manager could be found. The higher level manger, I don't remember their title at the time, but it was a year before they were promoted to Director, said that he was "too busy to have 1:1's with all of us now that there were so many reporting to him and that only if we had issues, should we schedule time with him."

Suddenly, at my end of year performance review, I went from a history of above average reviews and a mid-year review of above average to bottom 5% under the skip level manager. When I commented to him that I had expected him to give me the same courtesy of contacting me if he had issues and that no news was good news, I didn't understand how I could have slipped from above average to the worst rating possible with zero feedback and I didn't know how to communicate with him.

The next thing I know, he's reported me to HR and they scheduled a mediated session between him and I with HR to discuss how I would email him in great detail so that he could prioritize when to read my emails based on the guidance provided in that session. Shortly thereafter, a new manager was hired, I was on the sh-t list and the new manager put me on a performance improvement plan and basically worked to manage my butt out of Cisco until the 2011 WFR was announced and then all was great and the PIP was done and I was LR'd a couple of months later. Because I was on the PIP, I was blocked from doing an internal transfer to get out from under that manager and the skip level manager who started the cr-p.

I was able to return not long after the LR blackout period to a much better team and it's been pretty good. Above average IPF's every year and great feedback since they no longer do official performance reviews.

My recommendation to you, look for an internal transfer or just leave Cisco altogether. Trying to outlast a cr-ppy manager will only make you unhappy.

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Post ID: @xbw+1nUn7N7T

You can report her to the Ethics Committee (anonymously if you prefer). They will alert her manager and then it's on her manager to discuss w/ her. I did this once but it got me nowhere because her manager thought highly of her and he chose not to have the discussion.

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Post ID: @zkb+1nUn7N7T

Most employees don't leave a company, they leave a manager.

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Post ID: @ruz+1nUn7N7T

Typical Karen behavior.

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Post ID: @tnj+1nUn7N7T

She do not report to you,so make you feel so bad.

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Post ID: @xxh+1nUn7N7T

Tell me your mgr is IND without telling me your mgr is IND.

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Post ID: @agb+1nUn7N7T

Worry not, she will soon be promoted to Director.

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Post ID: @sjp+1nUn7N7T

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