Thread regarding Ford layoffs

We need to get this stuff on the ballot.

They already took a woman's right to choose and affirmative action. They denied our tuition debt assistance.

They're going to take our unions unless we stop them! Save our unions!

It's all going away. Ford corporate is going to be whittled down to a shell of what it once was. I'm guessing 90% of office jobs - at all salary grades and leadership levels - will be offshored. Only executives will remain along with IT support functions.

@1aob+1nVbgcSp You may refuse to see it, but @1rxh+1nVbgcSp was partially right with lowering the NA salaries. Why do you think the mighty USD keeps losing value? Think about the value of the USD 70 years ago, and how one breadwinner was enough for every American household. Now the economists are talking about 2 incomes households is a must, and we are getting paid "more" than 70 years ago, but with a depreciated USD.

The other piece of the puzzle is increasing the values of the foreign salaries, like is happening in India and China. Jobs move over there, people have more money, people spend more money, more services and products are provided, and in time, the quality of life goes up, and with it, the cost of living. Therefore, better salaries are needed and demanded. Why do you think that China has been artificially manipulating the Yuan? To slowdown that process.

What many people fail to realize, is that Nature always tends to balance. There is not going to be a safe haven, A.K.A, guaranteed job for every single employee, and only the fittest survive.

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Are people like you also arguing that the federal minimum wage needs to be increased? And that wages need to actually be livable wages?

Or are you just complaining because capitalism finally came for you and now you all of the sudden think that unions may protect your job?

You didn't support us UAW colleagues in the past. You vote Red and support union busting (like when Starbucks employees attempted to unionize). You don't support unions. You just want to protect yourself now that you feel you have no other option. We don't want people like you in the UAW.

The other guy is probably closer to correct than any of you want to admit. Either your salary will decrease, or your workload will significantly increase (align with headcount reduction) while your salary remains the same.

I'm using RTO as an opportunity to have candid conversations with coworkers around organizing, working to rule, and where to impact power structures to demand respect. The unions have the right idea when it comes to a bulletproof contract for employment. Individually we are weak, but together we are strong - and it's a lot easier to talk about these things in person, in the office than on easily traceable communication channels (like webex or email)

RE: We need to be chopping salaries to compete with India and other low cost countries. That's the only way we can ever hope to keep jobs in America.

You can't be serious - maybe you should move there to Kolkata in your hut and write us back. Hope the Westcoast area doesn't have such foolish thoughts.

Maybe it's time the shareholders start speaking up to flatten the over bloated executive level management staff. Certainly the $10M+ added staff roles help in the agile / nimble timely decision making, while one D&R is talking about volunteering for a salary reduction. Talk about MUDHA, Hacket was correct in reducing the management staff. A politician was also correct when he started placing tariffs.

We need to be chopping salaries to compete with India and other low cost countries. That's the only way we can ever hope to keep jobs in America.

Anyone complaining about RTO should wake up and realize how much work has been moved to India. A/P and purchasing are there. They work evenings to match US hours and do it at less pay. If you can WFH someone from India can do your job for less. So get your a-s back to the office.

The salary folks here will never unionize. We are mostly hard R republicans and are vehemently opposed to unions (except Poloce unions).

I feel badly for the people losing their jobs. But I hate to see many of these fellow Hard Rs turn into RINOs because they think that a union can benefit them.

Yellow Trucking went bankrupt because they took on too much debt when the accuired a compeditor and than tried to renegotiate the contracts with the Union. The Teamsters did not ask for anything other than a payment to he Pe--son fund with both sides agreed on. Their management scewed the company up and ask the employees to flip the bill.

Union for Ford engineers is more about saving their jobs than returning to work.

better do it quick before jobs are sent overseas.

Look at what the union did to the trucking company Yellow. Bankrupted them. Unions aren’t your savior.

Eliminate on-shored foreign competition and salaried workers gain the power of demand.

That’s a political problem. Be careful who you vote for. Know the ideology of the organizations you give money to.

The “return to office” movement is being pushed by governments, commercial real estate landlords, CRE investors and their bankers. Even before COVID, Ford was moving toward having people work remotely and eliminating most permanently assigned desks for most salaried workers. Working remotely is a HUGE cost save for companies. They don’t have to pay rent or taxes on an office building. No utilities, security, maintenance, or cleaning staff.

It is a good idea. The salaried folks are getting gutted by people with a lot less skills and who cannot do the work. I am not talking about just WFH but the insourcing and outsourcing as well.

Unionizing would just replace management thugs with union thugs.

Better to just leave and take your expertise elsewhere.

RTO has been rolled out in several depts. The UAW is making a huge issue of WFH for salaried. Unions support each other, so even if salaried unionized the union would be pro RTO to remain in solidarity with the manufacturing UAW members.

The reason salaried is suddenly open to organizing is due to 5 layoffs in less than a year and half.

"Ever since we've been forced back in the office three days a week "

Who in the world is going into the office? L.O.L