Thread regarding Ford layoffs

How Much More Can We Cut???

Cutting lower level staff every couple of months hardly seems like a viable business plan.

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Post ID: @OP+1nXlqvMK

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To all trolls.
"It is a proven fact that diverse teams make better decisions than non-diverse teams."

That is not proven, and in fact has been disproven. Look at Fords performance in the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s. Do you have any idea how many new products and segments Ford created and dominated during that time. Guess what diversity programs were in place then - none, just do the job. Now that is all undone by the PC army changing how Ford works and thinks and the results are inevitable. Catastrophic.

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Post ID: @3wrq+1nXlqvMK

@3odx+1nXlqvMK. The blue collar workers won't keep their jobs for long. This is the last contract they have any leverage. Since they keep voting for the green new deal, far fewer workers will be needed assembling EVs. And that is even if Ford maintains decent market share. They won't, since consumers will have much better options.

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Post ID: @3hiq+1nXlqvMK

@3odx

The white collar work force is invisible to the public. When Ford wants to show the "American" Ford employees it is ALWAYS been at a plant. The public thinks everyone works at the plants. After the cuts, the plants may receive some publicity showing all of the "American Workers" at the "American Jobs" ... no jobs are being sent out of the country.

LCC employees ... good luck.

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Post ID: @3sya+1nXlqvMK

The fewer white men, the more “diverse” an organization is.
Ford is shooting for 100% diversity.

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Post ID: @3fhc+1nXlqvMK

100% (over the next few years)

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Post ID: @3reg+1nXlqvMK

@2yq

Go look at Toyotas diverse engineering crew. Maybe marketing but not engineering. Physics doesn’t care about diversity

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Post ID: @3dtf+1nXlqvMK

Have you guys seen the Barbie movie??

I think you would really get a lot out of it.

Maybe crack open an ice cold Bud Light and sit. Ack and enjoy the show.

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Post ID: @2fxp+1nXlqvMK

@2yqq+1nXlqvMK. No, just repeating something over and over doesn't make it a proven fact.

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Post ID: @2coh+1nXlqvMK

It's not about PC hiring and promoting.

Mr Farley said very clearly that Ford Motor Company lags far behind our competitors with regards to diversity.

Diversity is a leading deliverable this year - and will continue to be for years to come. This is a KPI and a competitive advantage that we need.

It is a proven fact that diverse teams make better decisions than non-diverse teams.

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Post ID: @2yqq+1nXlqvMK

The better question is: How much more workload can we dump on the "remaining workforce" that's capable and hasn't quiet quit yet.

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Post ID: @2ewa+1nXlqvMK

@2y

For years Ford has been promoting based on PC not who was the best for the job. They are heading down hill fast

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Post ID: @2cxa+1nXlqvMK

If Ford would have actually terminated employees that were not pulling their weight, all along the way, the company would not need surprise layoffs. Until they recognize this, layoffs are inevitable. So sad

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Post ID: @2yic+1nXlqvMK

I hear that Ford Australia is being shut down and that work is being transferred to mexico instead of coming to US. Ford is not pro-US employees.

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Post ID: @1sst+1nXlqvMK

Confucius said, " the hand that holds the kn--e never cuts itself."
Genius, "cut off the brain (productive people), and then the rest is easy."
Confusion, "cut, cut, cut, and after that cut some more."

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Post ID: @1sqa+1nXlqvMK

"Anyone can see how many new management folks are being hired from outside with no experience in automotive or complex manufacturing. In addition, we see people with MBA and/or little engineering skill continue to be promoted. "

The common thread is that they don't know how to build a car which makes them
insignificant. Something is not quite right in our society. People who are useful are worth less than people who are not as useful. Do the skilless managers now have whips? They can't do anything else.

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Post ID: @1cor+1nXlqvMK

Going all EV isn't viable for Ford either. Why would you expect management to have a viable personnel plan?

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Post ID: @1geg+1nXlqvMK

The answer to your question is - how many ever we can hire from Mexico Brazil India

Dearborns got visiting Mexico teams 2 weeks a month, Brazil teams are here on long term postings and there are CAE teams with hundreds of engineers reporting to just a few managers in India. While I don’t blame these lcc employees who are trying to earn the most they can… upper management is the one driving this.

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Post ID: @1dfl+1nXlqvMK

I am not blaming the workers in LCC. Farley and his management team don't value the engineers in the US. They view them as salary and pension burdens, not skilled workers and a resource to be valued and developed. They certainly don't value being part of community and sustaining the region.

Cuts will continue, and the associated churn will continue to lead to an unstable workforce and impact the quality of the product.

Anyone can see how many new management folks are being hired from outside with no experience in automotive or complex manufacturing. In addition, we see people with MBA and/or little engineering skill continue to be promoted. This management team thinks anyone can engineer, but only a select few can manage. In my 2+ decades (SIRP'ed) maybe 2-3 of my managers were actually valuable guides, rest of them gave me deliverables and walked away. I always delivered on time with quality, with little to no input from them. This is the new Ford.

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Post ID: @1nax+1nXlqvMK

They are moving the jobs to Chennai (India engineering center) and Mexico, not cutting in the sense of eliminating the position.
Just having someone else do the job in a low cost country (LCC).
We hear the executive jobs are pennies on the dollar, we could replace Farley's $27M salary with a competent $180K LCC person with qualifications. Unfortunately, we wouldn't have the race car driver mentality dream machine steering the ship into the rocks.

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