Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

Betrayal

Anyone else feel betrayed by this company? You give years of your life to the company, bust you a$$, then some half-wit supervisor, manager of AVP puts on a serious face and reads your letter of surplus to you. As in don't let the door hit you in the a$$ on the way out, loser.

Ya this company values their employees just like a guy taking a cr-p in an outhouse values a corn shuck.

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If you decided to turn in your two weeks tomorrow, should the company feel betrayed that you didn't stay and left for better benefits and pay? Should your Supervisor?

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Post ID: @1tuu+1ncThXTP

I don't feel betrayed. As long as I have worked here, I have been paid. That's all they owe me. This isn't new and has happened time and again. Reorganization occurs and that includes cutting and trimming resources. Sometimes, if times are good, it could mean hiring more. It isn't a betrayal. It is just a fact.

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Post ID: @1mzw+1ncThXTP

"Not news and not informative. Corporations are created for 1 thing : make money and share the profits with the stockholders. All else is an expense including all employees. "

You forgot who makes the money. No employees, no profits and the company will cease to exist. Only the companies that value their employees as assets will be make money in the long run.

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Post ID: @1etu+1ncThXTP

Not news and not informative. Corporations are created for 1 thing : make money and share the profits with the stockholders. All else is an expense including all employees.

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Post ID: @1oed+1ncThXTP

Recently retired, over my 40 year career, there was ALWAYS office closures, consolidations to other States, and yes, many layoffs too - nothing new in that regard. I relocated years ago to follow my job - that job lasted 15 yrs up to my recent retirement. We were surplus, I opted to leave so younger colleagues could be spared.

That said, I wish everyone the very best and sincerely hope things work out for all. Prayers 🙏

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Post ID: @fci+1ncThXTP
It’s business, not personal.

You're being downvoted, but this is the reality for most US businesses. They are not your friends or family, and they will cut you down to save their own skin.

Always have an exit strategy.

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Post ID: @ytk+1ncThXTP

"Don’t pin that on your supervisor or even your second level. Those decisions are made at VP level or even higher."

Your supervisor or second level may not have the power to decide how many people had to be let go to meet the goal, but do you honestly believe they had nothing to do with choosing who to keep and who to cut? In most cases, they were the ones to pick who to put on the chopping block, usually the employees they disliked or felt threatened by most. The yes men who knew how to please their boss are the last men standing.

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Post ID: @owr+1ncThXTP

I know I am going to sound heartless on this, but you are not entitled of a job until you die. $hit happens and it happens all the time. Do what everyone does, find another job.

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Post ID: @qyn+1ncThXTP

"There is so much entitlement on this board! AT&T provided employment for a lot of people for a long time. The company never promised lifetime employment Needs of a business change and T is on life support."

What nonsense! The needs of the business didn't change. Stephenson and Stankey made a huge mistake born of hubris and naivete. Stankey personally oversaw the destruction of both TW and DTV. His arrogant attitude alienated the people who did the work at those companies and drove them off. Assuming that he could treat people like chattel, especially creatives was his undoing. Everything he has touched has failed. And that makes it very likely the layoff masquerading as office consolidation and RTO will also fail. That man is all bluster and confidence with no competence. He will sc--w this up just like the other "bold initiatives" he has been behind.

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Post ID: @wre+1ncThXTP

No one cares about your feelings. Maybe the law in California but no where else.

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Post ID: @yif+1ncThXTP

Don’t cry because it’s over.
Smile because it happened.

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Post ID: @utn+1ncThXTP

This is business folks, why the surprise ? You are guaranteed nothing more than 30 days of employmeny here. This is not personal. Just remember that the compnay is on life support, and the only way they can reduce expenses is through its most costly one…people. Also remember the better than average living the company afforded you. Pick up the pieces and move on otherwise you’ll be bitter forever.

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Post ID: @dlj+1ncThXTP

I stopped believing this company cared about the employees decades ago.

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Post ID: @gap+1ncThXTP

Honestly no. I’ve worked plenty other places and know that’s just SOP anywhere else you go, heck at least we get a heads up here. I learned a long time ago at a young age, always be adding value, always keep options open and always have a backup plan. There is no such thing as loyalty when it comes to companies.

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Post ID: @xyj+1ncThXTP

There is so much entitlement on this board! AT&T provided employment for a lot of people for a long time. The company never promised lifetime employment Needs of a business change and T is on life support.

I agree, but I have to say the way they handle some of these events really makes you wonder what their skill set is. This is especially true when you consider the past deals and what seems all too frequent change in direction. The RTO and pending surplus (which they are really keeping hush about compared to the two recent they warned about) have to be an all time low in leaderships performance.

As for the way the manager has to deliver the surplus, I can somewhat sympathize, they are likely controlled legal.

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Post ID: @pob+1ncThXTP

Why did you give years of your life? That’s on you. Anyone who wants to get ahead and make a ton of cash ALWAYS leaves T within 5/7 years of starting employment; they use it as a stepping stone. Akin to the likes of McDonalds for high school students, T is where you start your career right after college, not where you stay and end it. The only people I know who’ve stayed do so because want tons of days off and to barely have to work, or they are way too risk averse and disproportionately afraid of leaving (compared to the reality of moving on), so they stuck around forever.

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Post ID: @gnr+1ncThXTP

I remember my manager reading off my annual total rewards (salary) letter one year when I received a 0.03% raise. Lots of flowery language in the script, then he had to say the amount three times to get the decimal point in the right place. I wanted to laugh but it's not the kind of thing he would have appreciated.

That experience years ago primed me for whatever's coming. As another post stated, don't blame the messenger, your manager or even AVP. It's Stevenson and Stankey who got us here. Someone (like the board of directors) should be reading big John a letter like this pretty soon.

I'll laugh, I'll retire, I'll maybe find a new remote job, but I won't look back because this company has never failed to surprise me with who it deems as "surplus."

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Post ID: @sds+1ncThXTP

There is so much entitlement on this board! AT&T provided employment for a lot of people for a long time. The company never promised lifetime employment Needs of a business change and T is on life support.

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Post ID: @app+1ncThXTP

Honestly, no I don’t feel betrayed. It’s an ugly feeling I’m sorry you have to deal with it.

Im craft but I always knew I’m just a number. excel at metrics or not, doesn’t matter. I’m just a number and this is just a paycheck.

I do my job well because I get to help an actual human being. Other than that, it’s nothing personal btwn us & the company. It’s a healthy outlook to have.

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Post ID: @jus+1ncThXTP

I know an AVP who was so sick of it he gave a layoff to himself. The blood turns cold at L6.

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Post ID: @gtr+1ncThXTP

It’s business, not personal.

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Post ID: @zuj+1ncThXTP

Don’t pin that on your supervisor or even your second level. Those decisions are made at VP level or even higher. They are just the messengers and feel sick having to do it. You’re right about the company leaders - but most low to mid level management actually values the corn in your cr-p whether you want to believe it or not.

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Post ID: @qsi+1ncThXTP

Lol

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