Thread regarding Ford layoffs

After the layoff...

I am very disappointed and not sure if I should look for new opportunities in this industry now or maybe it is better to try outside the industry first?

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Over 93K jobs have been cut in tech in the US this year, since Ford wants to be a tech company, I would leave if you can. Keep in mind a recession could be on the horizon, and the job market is not good. It seems they are keeping it quiet. Ford's biggest market was NA and since US has been hurt badly by outsourcing, keep that in mind as well. I suggest you look for a job and see what your prospects are, let that guide your decision, and definitely don't let the Ford cheerleaders blow sunshine up your posterior.

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Post ID: @4hvk+1nnMZoFr

Definitely Outside. Being inside you know how much of the Ford press releases and media coverage are “we hope this will be true sometime in the future” presented as “this exists now”. Don’t base your future on pipe dreams being sold by highly compensated pipers. Just because Bill got duped doesn’t mean you should be also.

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Post ID: @4qzj+1nnMZoFr

Outside. Took me 1 year to find it but worth it. Also doing only automotive will limit your next job hunting.

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Post ID: @4yiw+1nnMZoFr

Terrible industry to work in. Highly regulated, low return on capital, intense global competition, very vulnerable to supply chain and raw material shocks, and highly cyclical demand. A love of the product and the challenge of delivering it are main draws.

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Post ID: @mzi+1nnMZoFr

This “ If you’re an LL6 or LL5 at Ford it won’t be long before you have no marketable skills” is why you find the LL* prioritizing playing Ford games. Most know in their heart that when Ford is done with them their career is done. As a result the ugly and vicious Ford games are played which unfortunately have tremendous collateral damage including removing all threats (highly skilled and respected underlings)

One LL6 retired at 69 after spending nearly his entire career as an LL6 bringing in friends, family, mistresses into his team. He would have two or three people on a team of 20 who actually did work. The rest fetched coffee and socialized with him. The few who did work would last 2-3 years and then exhausted quit. It was all by design. A cadre of FnF for his silo that really only had 3 people doing any work.

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Post ID: @nzp+1nnMZoFr

Don’t throw shade at someone for being a “generalist”. Ford hires skilled people and frequently turns them in generalists by moving them around so frequently. The people being moved around typically have no say in the moves. Your project gets cancelled and you get moved. There’s a reorg and your team gets moved and you start getting assignments you know nothing about. When you start to learn enough about your new role there’s another reorg. This happens most frequently if there’s an LL in your job title so be very careful about going for that promotion. If you’re an LL6 or LL5 at Ford it won’t be long before you have no marketable skills.

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Post ID: @qpl+1nnMZoFr

RE: Post ID: @yhu+1nnMZoFr - "Your clearly an accomplished generalist"
As apposed to what a TS as an intake designer, a 25 year exhaust engineer, a 20 year starter motor D&R, a 15 year water cooling pump specialist, a 10 year mount engineer, a 5 year valve spring engineer or a 2 year coder.

Smart a$$e$ like you deserve to be out on the streets and I'd sure like to start my 4th of July Holiday thinking you are out now if not soon.

Certain you add zero value to the bottom line and are the loudest crying whiner in your group, God help your coworkers bear the brunt of your hot aired Spieling all time !

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Post ID: @lkp+1nnMZoFr

Both outside automotive & this area. I’ve been laid off twice in the last 5 years, definitely looking to change industries.

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Post ID: @pzl+1nnMZoFr

Look in other industries like Defense. There are a wide variety of opportunities in that industry sector and some are local and relate to auto skills set.

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Post ID: @sqg+1nnMZoFr

Outside. I have now been laid off by three OEMs and I’m 36, so obviously that’s what I’m doing. Good luck to you!

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Post ID: @izw+1nnMZoFr

Look for opportunities in other cities too. About all there is in Detroit is automotive.

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Post ID: @axx+1nnMZoFr

Your clearly an accomplished generalist.
Go for it.

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Post ID: @yhu+1nnMZoFr

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