US immigration services have failed us.
Shame on ICE.
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The gov can't fix what they don't know about.
Report here: ReportH1BAbuse@uscis.dhs.gov
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Worked with an h1b at ford. Despite protest I had to lend him some 12v equipment that was around 350,000 at the time. Gave him step by step instructions a 1st grader could follow....the equipment sat there for 3months and claimed it didnt work. hooked it up and it worked just fine. Proceeds to come on over holding a Black and Red wire.... asks me if he can just plug those into the wall slots....This man supposedly had a masters degree in electrical engineering.....Told him no thats a 12v DC system he needs a power supply.
The dude ended up frying the equipment while stating "there was no where on the equipment to plug in my laptop charger"
https://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/news/2023/06/30/tech-employers-seek-more-work-visas-layoffs-mount.html
The point is when layoffs are happening ypu are renewing their visas ans mistly spinsoring their gcs
Many people in this post has two wrong assumptions:
(1) H1B is inexpensive. This is not true for established companies, like Ford.
(2) Many if not all believe that you can do what H1B are hired to do. This may or may not be true. The nature of the work that many H1B folks do are quite different than the regular engineering/science tasks. Just go look at the engineering/science graduate school of the major US universities and you will find out the student body are very different from the overall undergraduate and liberal arts advanced studies. Don't make a fool of yourself just because you are upset with what Ford did to you.
I don’t trust those numbers.
Eliminate from that workforce the boomers over 60. Add together all those who came to the US for jobs or as students and then got jobs. I think that the situation for a young native-born American is much more dire than the politically-correct narrative would like us to believe. Anyone in a STEM career just look around you.
Of the 146.4 million people ages 18 to 74 in the workforce, 34.9 million (24%) were employed in STEM occupations in 2021 ( source: https://ncses.nsf.gov/pubs/nsf23315/report/the-stem-workforce)
Total number of h1bs in 2019 : 600k (source wikipedia)
H1B is given only in STEM field. So, 1.7% of total STEM jobs are taken by foreign people. Don’t know if that interests politicians to talk against foreigners!! Infact most of these H1Bs covert to citizenship and may vote against them in next election!!
WHY would any American kid want to choose a career in science, technology or engineering?
I hope these politician realize that they are driving American kids away from these fields and this will become a national security crisis. Who is going to design the next generation of we-pons? Who will manufacture the we-pons we need TODAY? Are they going to open up H-1B visa for THAT?
Politics matter.
GET INVOLVED!
Read alternative news sources like Twitter and CitizenFreePress.
I don't work at Ford, but it sounds like what is happening in the Tech sector. Layoffs are pushing out Americans to bring in H-1B. If there was really a need to layoff or create cost efficiency then the temporary H-1B visas should be the first to go, they are here only on a temporary visa. There are a few signs that I think you should know.
Look at the path of the H-1B through the U.S. colleges. They are mostly transferring with a Bachelor of Technology degree (B.tech) which is like a Devry Univesity BSEET degree of study. Universities don't allow Devry an open door path directly to Master Degree programs, so why should they lower the expectations only for Indians with B.tech. With this path now open for an Indian B.tech they have a chance to convert a technologist degree to an U.S. Masters degree. If there were H-1B reform I think the congressmen should look to see if a B.Tech is the same as an American Bachelor of Science degree or if this should be barred. Universities don't allow Americans to do this.
https://indiaeducation.net/engineering/about-engineering/difference-be-btech/
https://floridapoly.edu/admissions-and-aid/difference-engineering-technology-degree-bachelor-science-engineering.php
I haven't looked through your job openings, but are the tech jobs outside the U.S. set as high as they are in the U.S.? In other companies I've seen that to bring in H-1B they will list a job as requiring Masters in the U.S. but have the same job hiring at a Bachelor degree outside the U.S.. Also, keep an eye open at your local newspaper job section. A company needs to advertise a job in the newspaper for 2 weeks before sponsor a foreigner as part of a PERM process. Check the job number and see if it is actually an active job number. If it is not a job active on the career page, then you might want to notify the Department of Justice, Facebook was busted for doing something similar to that.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-labor-departments-reach-settlements-facebook-resolving-claims-discrimination-against
This is not normal and talk with your elected officials. U.S. jobs should not be made priority to H-1B or foreigners when there are qualified Americans. I don't know any other country that would push out their citizen's engineers to bring in B.Tech foreigners.
There are still positions Ford have on their job posting which are open to h1bs. It all depends on LL6. Ford doesn’t want to go into green card chaos for every post, hence many cone through agencies or purchase services. These H1Bs working either as agency or FT have legal visas. They are not cheap, their salaries are very transparent and anyone can look online how much ford pays for these candidates. Just google it!!
Can someone answer his? Is Ford providing work visa support now? I thought Ford does not at least in North America hiring positions- candidates have to have valid work visa status if not US citizen.
So I thought that H1b holders are either contractors (their agency supports visas) or purchased service (same as agencies). What could be the possible position for LLs to have to reject 40 US citizens? I am curious. H1b eligibility itself must meet a very high skillset requirement- “Unfortunately we cannot find this talent within the US”
Remember this in November 2024!
My LL6 is against hiring H1Bs even though he himself being an asian. Last time when he converted a contractor to FT on H1B, he had to sponsor green card for him. He had to post the job on job posting so that he can reject all Americans who applied and show the immigration office that he found none with skills he is looking for. 40 Americans applied!! Ford had to pay for transportation for some to get them onsite for interview. At the end he had to give explanation for each candidate on what case he is rejecting them. This paperwork and trouble made him go against hiring anyone on H1B and simply for for American talent. All LL6 who hire talents on H1B know what sh-t they will go through later. May be hiring a H1B candidate seems to be worth of trouble for them if they feel they got a talented guy!!
I my case, I found 3 jobs at Ford I completely qualify for that I could have moved to when I searched Indeed. You watch. They'll claim that they just can't find any American's to do these jobs and hire an H-1B worker.
I have to point out that I'm not opposed to H-1B workers entirely, but American jobs should go to American citizens first. The H-1B program should not be used just to keep wages low.
I have issue with separating ford direct us citizens before contract, purchase services and h1b. Order of separation should be purchased services, contract, h1b (ford direct) and lastly ford direct us citizens. Jobs losses for ford direct us citizens should be the last resort.
Ford doesn't sponsor visa form most of the open positions. You can read the at the bottom of any job requirements posting. When they fail to find US Citizens, the hiring manager has no other option and he has to hire people as contractors. If the manager likes their work they will try to convert them to Ford Direct. I know some contract H1B workers who does most of the work and he is a contractor since 2012. He could have been easily made a scape goat during the previous playoff rounds. But he is still there. Meanwhile, so called "US CITIZENS" just loaf around.
To the guy talking about roush 9... I don't think you know how H1B program works.. 90% of those are US educated only.!
Yup yup blame H1b's for your problem you d***
this is coming from another US Citizen to OP
STFU Mo--n!
@qsy - skill level of H1B is irrelevant since that visa is specifically for when positions cannot be filled by American citizens because essentially all with the skill set are already employed.
Then in that case, everyone on this land are immigrants at some point in time.
File a complaint
https://www.uscis.gov/scams-fraud-and-misconduct/report-fraud/combating-fraud-and-abuse-in-the-h-1b-visa-program
The same thing happened over at roush 9 in August. 2 of the 4 USA citizens laid off while 22 H1Bs stayed.
To the talented H1B guy comment. Yes H1Bs can be talented and there are very strong schools in other countries. Personally I have not seen these extraordinary talented H1Bs. It is very underwhelming to see “masters degrees” electrical engineer degrees draw on white boards two parallel 120ohm resistors, trying to figure out the equivalent resistance. Sorry boys at this level 101 courses have place.
Did it every occur to you the H1b guy was talented enough to stay there?
Welcome to America. Where your id--t politicians are more concerned with helping the rich make more $ than protecting the average citizen from getting laid off. The government has failed all of us.