Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

GSSO Issues / Attrition / Layoffs

Security Sales will continue its path to negative growth. Several reasons for this. Here are a few.

GSSO top leadership is out of touch with reality. The next disastrous decision is coming in FY24 when they “rebalance” again and tell everyone to sell everything. No more specialists / no more experts. Everyone needs to know everything. UNREALISTIC and short-sighted. The competition is going to continue to grow double digits as they have a better sales model. This single decision will lead to even a bigger disastrous negative growth number. More talented people are going to leave to the competition. Even at that, layoffs will still be needed due to the accelerated decline of the business due to this decision.

The reliance on AMs / SAs and the direct side leadership to actually sell other technologies other than routers and switches is a disaster and has led the architectures to decline. The direct side and leadership think they know how to sell Data Center, Collaboration, and Security. The numbers show otherwise.

Technology after technology they sc--w it up. Look at Data Center and Collaboration and the downward spiral they have been on. Security is on the same path. Our AMs / SAs and direct side leadership to include AVPs are no match against the niche security competitor AMs / SEs and leadership. The niche competitors destroy the AMs / SEs and Cisco sales and engineering leadership. They never even get a chance to position the architectures.

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Agree, you can’t trust that SED. It is in your best interest to find a role where he is not in your leadership chain.

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Post ID: @2tkz+1nycw4UH

Do not trust that SED. He has not done one thing for the TSAs. He does not know what our job is. He hires is own TSA from direct side who is nothing more than his admin while the rest of us are actually working. He hires our director in GES that came from direct side. He would not consider anyone from GSSO.

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Post ID: @2uua+1nycw4UH

Cisco su-ks, not sure why you guys haven’t gotten the memo yet but you should leave.

The pay is mediocre at best
The fear of layoff is constant
Your skillset has limited applicability outside of Cisco
Your exec team is a bunch of psychopaths who assume just enough of you a d-mb enough to stay with the company.

Remember this classic line “no inflation raises because you wouldn’t want to give it back if we had a deflationary period”. Sh-t, how fu---d in the head do you have to be to stay at a company with that mentality?

Anyway, good luck, god bless. But do yourself a favor and get the fu-k out.

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Post ID: @1bkn+1nycw4UH

@nts+1nycw4UH the problem is the TSAs aren’t technical. They use marketing speak. If they were any good they would have left for better products and pay long before C2E, as you did. Who with technical security chops would want to work at Cisco?

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Post ID: @1vde+1nycw4UH

Your GSSO Americas SED ran off excellent TSAs due to his push for the disastrous C2E and Agile TSA initiatives all in the name of appeasing EK who helped him get the role. Not sure who else was in the running but anyone would have been better. Then he lied about whether or not he was pushing C2E and Agile TSA when the new regime came in. The field knows that and has no trust and respect for him. When I left the morale of the TSAs was at its lowest due to his not listening to the field. E&T are good people so give them time. They will also eventually see thru the incompetence and hire someone that is capable of being the GSSO Americas SED and more importantly earn the trust of the TSAs and lead them. Best to all of you as I still have many friends there.

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Post ID: @nts+1nycw4UH

Well if it makes you feel any better they’re firing direct/portfolio AMs and SAs too. Now it’s up to the partners. Ouch.

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Post ID: @bpr+1nycw4UH

Here’s the thing - everything you describe is fundamentally because of the product being bad. That needs to be fixed first, but it won’t ever be. As for security sales - the portfolio is small, it’s not too much to ask for a single person to cover it all. Competitors don’t have hyperspecialists for every time little product. We sell security to make the stockholders think we’re relevant. It’s a tiny business, we don’t really care about it.

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