How many of you 50+ have seen your rank improve in the last three years? Yes or No
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The NRE originally used a couple of years back during the “Voluntary and Non-Voluntary exercise” 😉 was in the age range of 52-55. The person posting @ 65 should have been long gone but lucky for he/she.
As it pertains to US employment, EM does not have to abide by the NRE position. They can release anyone, any age, at any time with no cause. Texas is not a “for cause” state.
I am 65 y.o. (yes, old for this place), and just got bumped all the way down. My drop started three years ago. It bothers me because a co-worker who does the same job as me is a total slacker and is now two buckets above me. The only thing that saved my A$$ this year is I am NRE. I'll be out of here in a matter of months when I reach RE. I won't leave here thinking positively about the "Oil Giant".
I asked in my first ranking meeting why a guy that was absolutely the best in his specialty was ranked around RG30. I was told that because the guy was over 55 he lost points every year to the younger generation that were building their careers and moving up. My boss said the 55+ guy did not need all those points because career going nowhere. Losing points was based on age, not performance.
@3dsm+1o5JPzOG Consider what you are saying. You sited readily falsifiable information that you found on the internet to call BS on the disgruntled folks on a layoff site….
@3dth I just googled “ExxonMobil employee median age”. Every stat I quoted is public domain. The sites on which the data are posted identify “retail store employees” as being part of the data set. I’m not saying it’s accurate, I’m just saying that it’s there.
Sigh…. You are a troll or don’t know much about your employer. In the U.S. XOM owns no retail stores and has no retail employees. Globally most (if not all by now) retail has been divested. Where the employee population skews dramatically younger is in global business centers like Bangkok, Bangalore, Budapest, Buenos Aires, Curitiba, etc….
Manufacturing and operations sites skew older as do offices in U.S., Western Europe/U.K.
If you are younger and work in these offices, keep your resume up to date.
I don’t buy this age discrimination stuff that’s always being posted here. As far as I can tell the place is the world’s most profitable retirement home.
The publicly available age data are not reliable, because they they include employees at Exxon’s retail stores. There’s no way that half of Exxon’s corporate workforce is between 20-30 years old. The Exxon Pipeline Co. data are probably closer to reality, at least as far as race goes, with 61% NH white and 58% being men, but the sample was small.
After the way they have increased drilling of employees I would not put anything past Durwood, his chronnies or the sls
@1ahz In which universe are artificial intelligence, communism, and promotions within Exxon even remotely related?
Seriously, where do you people get this $hit?
Only if you have pics
If I were Exxon and wanted to make sure the true numbers didn’t point toward age discrimination, I’d sporadically give the historically lower ranked (and therefore lower paid) NRE folks better rankings every so often to offset the number NI/NSI rankings I gave to the folks that have had successful careers (e.g receiving company awards) who are likely paid more. That way, overall NSI numbers for NRE are not too weighted towards NRE and I’m not giving my higher paid employees bigger raises. Keep that opex down.
He!! No! DWW has the system set up that if you aren’t <32 YEE then you are done…
Ever wonder if these folks saying they went up are company sponsored, some type of AI bot or communist that have been hired by xom?
BTC SU-KS! I agree that DW and the funky bunch want to turn Houston into a India/remote/outsourced bag of biscuits
48-53 received awards for projects and requested by teams to work on their projects, even overseas assignments but ranking fell off at 48yrs and never recovered. Was told I would be ok as I was a women and they won't fire me until I'm safe so don't worry about it...."You are already making more than most..." Yup gotta love EM, last time my ranking was this low I had come back from maternity leave.
Early 50s. Had multiple successful project deployments. Won two company awards. And lead several other activities. Dropped to NI. Age discrimination is strong at XOM.
Nope
I have seen award winning guys over 50 drop in ranking/PIP’d. Company SMEs and industry recognized SMEs.
The cumulative data must surely be kept very secret.
It seems that many older technical professionals are promoted to 28 just to provide sacrifices to the PIP to protect the young Rocket Riding Sponsored Chosen ones while they do their short stint in the 28/29 group.
To get the target average of 50 RG in the 28/29 group, there needs to be nearly one RG zero old guy PIP’d for every young Sponsored Chosen person that gets RG 90+.
Strange how those young Chosen persons take credit for the old guy’s accomplishments and get top Quintile while the old guy that accomplished those achievements gets bottom quintile.
Went from NI to G at age 60. No good explanation
The higher the YE, the lower your chance of a good rank.........you can take that to the food bank.
NRE are scarifying lambs for the ranking game.
Probability of getting NSI for older than 50 folks is 80%.
The real numbers are kept secret to avoid lawsuits but the they anybody leaks the AGE-PIP data, it will became very obvious that the correlation grows exponentially as age converges to NRE.
If only someone in HR or IT had the courage to leak those numbers....
I don’t know anyone personally that had their ranking go up after 52. I was even told by 2 Sups off the record it is age related and there’s nothing I could do to get it back up to excellent. That’s the truth.
Yes... don't expect it will last when I hit 55
Before I retired last year, my ranking under the new method went from NI to G to VG. I was over 60. Under the old system I was bottom third with no hope of improving.
No, went straight to NI during covid and stayed there ever since.
Completely rare, I know, but actually saw mine go up this year. I’m 52. Taking it for the gift it is.
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