Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

RTO Reporting Doesn't Exclude PTO

We all heard Legg say that days off wouldn't be counted in the denominator. Well here's a shocker! He was wrong. Below was my schedule last week. I was in the office for 100% of the days I worked. If time off doesn't count against you, I should have been fine. But the d-mb@ss report gigged me anyway.

As a supervisor, I'm already being told to document every single day off and work from home day for all of my employees. And be ready to immediately explain if someone misses the mandate. So make sure you document EVERYTHING for your own safety.

Last week:
Monday - holiday
Tuesday - worked in the office
Wednesday - worked in the office
Thursday - PTO
Friday - PTO

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Post ID: @OP+1oC0gP7W

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My office has 3 badged doors to get from the elevator to my desk. What does that look like on the report?

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Post ID: @3lly+1oC0gP7W

“Meanwhile every vendor like IBM is sitting on their hands not assigning tickets until day 3 and then sitting on it for another 3 days before they even lift a finger. Stuck systems issues that used to be cleared in minutes and maybe a couple hours during busy times now takes days, weeks, etc. Can't these id--ts in leadership see that the vendors are bleeding them dry for additional cost by not doing any work without additional ticketing?”

Unfortunately vendor companies like Accenture and Amdocs become opportunistic by knowing that how badly senior leaderships treats their L2s and L1s. Nowadays the quote to upgrade few packages starts with hundreds of thousands and goes well into millions. I remember back in those days couple employs used do in few weeks. What a mess!

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Post ID: @1ijo+1oC0gP7W

So how many BABY SITTERS DOES AT&T have???? by that i mean managers. We have 2 for about less than 20 folks, is that really necessary? Is even 1 necessary, i have yet to figure out what good they are, they have no answers to ANYTHING.

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Post ID: @1wmi+1oC0gP7W

There are two reports.

The Power Bi that your Director has access to only counts badge swipes. If you swipe you get a green light. In addition, if you take even 1 vacation day, you show green for the entire week.

There is a second report that is monitoring your LAN/Wifi connectivity to the network and they are watching but my director has not seen it yet.

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Post ID: @1lqm+1oC0gP7W

"There is almost 40% not meeting the requirements. It will be VERY hard for the company to not get sued if an individual is terminated for not meeting the % without the courts asking what happened to the 40% who aren’t complying."

I suspect this is incorrect. Most states or at will. They can fire you for any reason or no reason. They can decide to fire you for noncompliance with rto but not provide you with that written reason.

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Post ID: @1hhm+1oC0gP7W

“ If you are a target for next round then they will get you no matter what you do, just don’t make it easy for them by not reporting to office.”

But will you get severance?

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Post ID: @1fgd+1oC0gP7W

If you are a target for next round then they will get you no matter what you do, just don’t make it easy for them by not reporting to office. I have been in office for two months and see someone getting that tap on shoulder everyday in our office. Have not seen any mass cuts only a slow roll.

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Post ID: @1rpg+1oC0gP7W

Attendance report ?- how low can this Company go? Treat everyone like kids. Meanwhile every vendor like IBM is sitting on their hands not assigning tickets until day 3 and then sitting on it for another 3 days before they even lift a finger. Stuck systems issues that used to be cleared in minutes and maybe a couple hours during busy times now takes days, weeks, etc. Can't these id--ts in leadership see that the vendors are bleeding them dry for additional cost by not doing any work without additional ticketing?
if they want to get rid of someone then man or woman up and fire away. What a bunch of losers running this company,

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Post ID: @fqb+1oC0gP7W

We haven’t seen anything official about what counts and what doesn’t in regards to holidays. It is really bad when different groups get told different things. We got one thing about 2.5 days of vacation meaning you can work that .5 day at home. Nothing more than that.

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Post ID: @mro+1oC0gP7W

Make sure you code your pto beforehand so it registers on the report. My team has been fine on the reports by doing that

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Post ID: @sfz+1oC0gP7W

"To be safe, go to the office every day you are on the clock."
Yes, with these attendance reports, better to exceed the minimum requirements and go in everyday and put in at least 8 hours.

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Post ID: @civ+1oC0gP7W

We all know that the company has a report showing compliance.

Therefore that report is subject to disclosure for any employment lawsuits.

There is almost 40% not meeting the requirements. It will be VERY hard for the company to not get sued if an individual is terminated for not meeting the % without the courts asking what happened to the 40% who aren’t complying.

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Post ID: @hek+1oC0gP7W

OP is wrong - there is an actual check box on the report that allows you to remove people with PTO logged in the system.

So either you logged PTO after the fact (it takes a few weeks to catch up if it wasnt in the system prior to the week you took off), or you didnt check the box that says "exclude vaction"

Stop the fear mongering. There is enough to worry about without spreading fake news.

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Post ID: @ncu+1oC0gP7W

Opposite here. Last week I had the holiday, two vacation days and two WFH days. I was told I met my three days in office obligation.
You didn’t expect the rules to be clear and consistent did you?

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Post ID: @ozy+1oC0gP7W

It also uses how you connect to the LAN using VPN connection data.

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Post ID: @gkh+1oC0gP7W

I have been noting any deviations including PTO in MOOSE.

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Post ID: @zqc+1oC0gP7W

This is Return To Work (RTW), not Return To Office (RTO).

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Post ID: @gff+1oC0gP7W

What a clown show.

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Post ID: @auc+1oC0gP7W

To be safe, go to the office every day you are on the clock.

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Post ID: @aph+1oC0gP7W

@nrd+1oC0gP7W - I also SEE THE REPORTS. They are not accurately reflecting time off. There is a note that shows Labor Day was in last week but DOES NOT reflect vacation time.

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Post ID: @alb+1oC0gP7W

Quality of work should matter rather than where it is done, but since location is all that seems to matter to the higher ups I don’t need to get screwed over for not following their d-mb rules.

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Post ID: @zeg+1oC0gP7W

This is all one giant joke. Management should be focused on way more important things and so should their direct reports.

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Post ID: @uly+1oC0gP7W

Do we have exact rules on how many days you have to come in if we have a short week or take a certain amount of PTO days? Like if you take two PTO days do you have to come in all three of the other days? Or if you take one PTO day (I have one coming up)

This has not really been explained to my group.

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Post ID: @wdd+1oC0gP7W

TO @ofr+1oC0gP7W Thanks for that info. It used to be the AT&T badge swipes before 7 am were not recorded by the CRE reporting

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Post ID: @toi+1oC0gP7W

@sbq+1oC0gP7W It has to be an AT&T badge swipe at an office. In one of my direct report locations, they also have a landlord badge for the building access; We do not see nonatt badge swipes. We do see when you badge into the att office, though. so don't piggyback, and make sure you swipe your badge.

To my knowledge, is is based on a 24 hour day, as one direct report went to the office at noon to then work after hours on a deployment, we saw his badge swipe after he returned from dinner after 6 p.m.

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Post ID: @ofr+1oC0gP7W

TO: @nrd+1oC0gP7W Does the badge swipes before 7am get recorded? Is the reporting now for 24 hours a day?

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Post ID: @sbq+1oC0gP7W

@snc+1oC0gP7W we dont see network traffic as of yet on reports, only badge swipes.

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Post ID: @gom+1oC0gP7W

As someone who sees the report, YES IT DOES. If you have two days of PTO, then you are only required in the office for one day... However, it doesn't take holidays into account, or at least one day holidays. Last week, many of my direct reports only went to the office twice; they were flagged... We don't know how it will treat the upcoming Thanksgiving/Black Friday holidays.

Also, just FYI, the tracking system only does badge swipes at the moment, we cant see VPN/network traffic, only badge swipes, If you badge in in the morning, you get counted as being there.

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Post ID: @nrd+1oC0gP7W

Fake news

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Post ID: @ygm+1oC0gP7W

You are so paranoid. WTF is this post about?

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Post ID: @ldk+1oC0gP7W

Yep and also monitoring time on network at the office also. So badge in and leaving early is going to burn a bunch of folks soon.

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Post ID: @snc+1oC0gP7W

We were also told by our supervisor to send email for any day off or any ‘emergency’ that caused you to miss your target (3) number of days in the office. First day back forgot my badge so I couldn’t swipe in, the report showed I missed the target, but my boss has my email that I was in the office without my badge. So glad “they” have time to monitor us like kindergartners instead of trying to make money for the company.

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Post ID: @dkf+1oC0gP7W

probably some new young hires running the system, like a bunch of monkey's f ing a football

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Post ID: @oir+1oC0gP7W

They know there are serious flaws in the system. That said, if you click on that week, it should sow that you had 2 PTO days and a holiday.

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Post ID: @brg+1oC0gP7W

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