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ExxonMobil lobbies for blue hydrogen to qualify for tax credits under Inflation Reduction Act

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ExxonMobil (NYSE:XOM) is urging the Biden Administration to allow hydrogen derived from natural gas, known as blue hydrogen, to be eligible for substantial tax credits under the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA), according to internal company documents reviewed by Bloomberg. The energy giant is banking on blue hydrogen, produced via carbon capture and storage (CCS) to eliminate most emissions, as a cornerstone of its low-carbon solutions division, alongside CCS and biofuels.

The IRA, enacted in August 2022, encompasses nearly $370 billion in climate and clean energy provisions. Included are investment and production credits for solar, wind, storage, hydrogen, and critical minerals, funding for energy research, as well as credits for clean energy technology manufacturing such as wind turbines and solar panels. The Act also provides a 45V credit for the production of clean hydrogen made from electrolysis. However, detailed guidance on eligibility for this subsidy, which could reach up to $3 per kilogram of hydrogen, has not yet been issued by the U.S. Treasury Department.

ExxonMobil's Vice President of Public and Government Affairs, Matt Furman, stated in an interview with Bloomberg that the company's gas-derived hydrogen could be 'clean' enough to qualify for the highest tax credits under the IRA if permitted. Furman added that Exxon's assertions about the cleanliness of its blue hydrogen are backed by U.S. government officials who conducted the modeling.

CEO Darren Woods personally advocated for ExxonMobil's case last week during meetings with White House clean energy advisor John Podesta and key legislators. ExxonMobil argues that it can produce hydrogen from natural gas without emitting significant amounts of carbon dioxide, thus creating a fuel as climate-safe as hydrogen made from water and renewable energy. This should make it eligible for the law's top tax credit, according to the company.

However, this lobbying effort has been met with opposition from environmental campaigners. They argue that granting blue hydrogen any government incentive would merely increase fossil fuel production. If ExxonMobil's efforts prove successful, it could pave the way for fossil fuel companies to secure billions of dollars in subsidies and become dominant players in the hydrogen sector. This prospect raises concerns among environmentalists, who question whether hydrogen derived from natural gas can ever be emission-free and contend that its promotion would ultimately lead to increased fossil fuel production.

Officials are expected to finalize the rules for claiming these credits under the IRA later this fall.

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@1wvs The world can’t make enough hydrogen to meet current power generation demands.

The people most excited about the hydrogen economy (read: the people doing the most to push it) also happen to be the people who make, sell, and maintain the facilities and machinery required to store and produce it. All of those companies have questionable environmental safety records, and the chemical waste resulting from hydrogen production is as damaging and difficult to remediate as waste products from hydrocarbons.

Combusting hydrogen (safely) is also a non-trivial technical problem, and even the best quality hydrogen currently produced has a lower energy density than natural gas (it’s about 1:3).

Nuclear is really the way to go, but it’s expensive and the regulatory burden is insane. No easy answers here……

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Post ID: @3aid+1oJKbB8X

@2zrq Democrats aren’t “channeling ” money to ExxonMobil.

The tax subsidies for specific types of energy initiatives are a government benefit. If ExxonMobil is eligible for those subsidies then there’s no legal reason why they shouldn’t get them.

I think a better question is why a company run and staffed by a large number of right-wing libertarians and anarcho-capitalists is falling all over itself to collect public subsidies to begin with.

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Post ID: @3cdz+1oJKbB8X

From a personal perspective, if those tax subsidies (paid out of my pocket) keep me from being laid off and having nothing in my pocket - this is genius.
Thanks, Durwood.
Member me.

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Post ID: @2dah+1oJKbB8X

@1gyo I wouldn’t be so smug.

Many white collar employees in large operating companies, especially “engineers” make their living, often to the tune of $200k/year or more, doing little more than writing specifications.

Methods of generating accurate technical specifications with the help of A.I. are already being tested, and are likely to be rolled out before you’re eligible to retire.

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Post ID: @1osx+1oJKbB8X

“Company run by libertarian reactionaries who are hostile to everything even remotely related to government make mad dash for government subsidies.”

There, fixed the headline for you.

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Post ID: @1utq+1oJKbB8X

Let’s be clear - if what you actually care about is CO2 emissions and not irrational anger about anything touching hydrocarbons, then you should be for blue hydrogen, provided it can actually be pulled off as clean as predicted. Even though blue hydrogen will be more expensive than just burning natural gas, it will be several multiples cheaper than than what the best electrolyzer in the world is able to produce, which is perhaps only a tenth of the size of a typical hydrogen plant. I’m not sure what stupidity motivated somebody to leak these documents to the press.

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Post ID: @1wvs+1oJKbB8X

We need to drill baby! Black gold.

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Post ID: @1yhb+1oJKbB8X

How lame!!!

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