In the UAW, you can maintain your integrity and co-workers are more trust-worthy. Downsides include repetitive work (line) and physical injury.
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That question makes no sense. There are salaried CAD employees in Ford who are represented by the UAW. It doesn’t have to be either/or.
Have you been in one of the plants???
If you have good skills salary position is better after that UAw skilled trades position.
I wouldnt work the assembly line it doesnt sound like you have any idea the culture or the environment in the plant.
There is reason why the stair cases and outside break areas are littered with fireball whisky and the like.
Salaried is better when you look at hours worked for the pay and the working conditions.
Salaried inexperienced new hires are coming in at 75K-110K depending on discipline and work at most 40 hours a week. But you are subjected to continual verbal and emotional abuse - gaslighting, backstabbing, credit stealing, blame shifting.
Inexperienced new plant hires make $16 an hour, work mandated 6 day 10 hour days =60 hours in the summer and have unpredictable hours the rest of the year. They remain in temp status for years (no profit sharing, no dental, no vision). The # of years depends on the location (some 2 some 5 some 8). Then once hired in they are placed in tiers where it takes 8 years of perfect service to approach top pay of $32 an hour. They still need to work OT to get enough $ to support a family. They find out on Thursday if they are required to work Saturday and Sunday. They have numerous repetitive task injuries, work in un-air conditioned dirty environments.
JF was talking out his behind about the inflated UAW salaries. Top pay for a 40 hour work week is 61K. Add on all the mandated OT and it is 101K.
The temp game and tier game seems to be a diabolically bean counter game, oh on average a worker will develop respective task physical injuries in X years so lets jerk them around for X years so they will quit if in pain/injured and then just keep the ones who are still healthy. Jerk them around for another X years to weed the injured out again.
On the flip side the salaried they are off shoring 85% of the jobs, and they ensure that your skillset is valuable only at Ford to hold you captive until they flush you.
In this day and age it is better not to work at Ford at all.
@qyt there is no such position. SG8 is the highest GSR and LL6 is the lowest LL
If you’re a retiree & long term employee, I’d say the UAW benefits are better than salaried employees, Better pension & better health insurance. Just my opinion.
The salary numbers in here are incorrect
What do LL7s max out at?
GSR is about 120k + 15-25k bonus. LL6 would be 150k + 35k bonus. It does cause quite a bit of anxiety when the cuts come around.
With overtime most make more than you will as salary. LL6 maxing out at 125k is not worth headache of layoffs.