Thread regarding Ford layoffs

If they do RTO, will you actually go?

I really don't see the point

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Post ID: @OP+1oNn6MNv

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I have been working from home since 2020. I called into these stupid meetings once or twice a day while I am working on my side job and home projects.

It has been perfect for me. I get the ppt to my boss for what he wants each week and some Excel spreadsheets. He's happy, and I am happy.

Not a bad job for doing high school stuff.

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Post ID: @2dog+1oNn6MNv

Ford hasn't gotten anything right, why should we expect them to get this one ..

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Post ID: @2gam+1oNn6MNv

RTO will ramp up early next year. Expect a company-wide announcement in January.

I've been hearing that everyone will be required in the office 4 days a week. It will be a PR goal. Those that try to work from home more will be dinged on their rating. The company is weighing forcing remote workers to move to SE Michigan or voluntarily resigning. Those hired remote had clauses stating that in the future they may be required to relocate at their own expense.

WFH as a rule will end in 2024. I've been told this on good authority.

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Post ID: @2mpz+1oNn6MNv

Before 2020, engineers at Ford just sat at their desks attending WebEx meetings all day. It was so bad that management was floating the idea of just having offices with unassigned desks that people could use if they ever had to be I the office. In fact, some buildings, like AEC, were converted to that model. There was no more “collaboration” then than when people were working from home.

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Post ID: @1psc+1oNn6MNv

“RTO is necessary to improve employee collaboration which experts say…”

THIS is the narrative being pushed by the commercial landlords, their bankers, the CRE investors and all the greedy governments looking at decreased “revenue” from people working remotely. You can add in car makers and oil companies who wan you during back and forth to an office every day.

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Post ID: @1utk+1oNn6MNv

Greedy commercial real estate landlords? Ford owns the office space in Dearborn.

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Post ID: @1zvl+1oNn6MNv

I’m expecting an office in the Train Station, I’ll go back the day it is ready.

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Post ID: @1uap+1oNn6MNv

RTO is necessary to improve employee collaboration which experts say has proven to improve a company's bottom line. DF has stated as such in Town Halls if you have been paying attention.

I enjoy coming to the office regularly like pre-pandemic time.

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Post ID: @1tmy+1oNn6MNv

The first phase of the hub won't be completed until 2025 so I'm good until then.

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Post ID: @1fkz+1oNn6MNv

“Most of my interactions are with engineers and suppliers who are not local.”

It’s been like this for years. Even for Ford meetings most people attended via WebEx because there aren’t enough conference rooms, there are enough large conference rooms, or people have so many meetings that they just can’t physically make it from one to the next in time.

Ford will be wasting a lot of money on office building expenses. The RTO push is political. Commercial real estate landlords, their bankers and investors; greedy governments and their lust for “revenue”, these folks are behind it. Companies that figure out how to manage remote information workers (like most engineering jobs) will have an economic advantage over those companies that can’t.

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Post ID: @1inz+1oNn6MNv

The salaried people that matter went back to work when production restarted, the rest are non core anyway. Ford is just slower at figuring it out than other companies.

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Post ID: @1ncy+1oNn6MNv

Most of my interactions are with engineers and suppliers who are not local. So, I’ll still be in meetings half the day but only from the office. Plus, we have many team members in Mexico and Brazil. Not seeing right now how this will make me more productive.

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Post ID: @1znj+1oNn6MNv

Yes, I'll stop by for a few hours near lunch. It's much easier to brown nose in person ;-)

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Post ID: @1bvk+1oNn6MNv

3 days a week is coming sooner than you think. Then when the hub is done, everyone back to th offices..

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Post ID: @1avq+1oNn6MNv

@szl+1oNn6MNv - I hate those lunch meetings. I block my 30 minutes cal, and guess what, someone sees it and takes that spot for an "important review".

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Post ID: @1jtg+1oNn6MNv

@xgm+1oNn6MNv - I don't have COVID but I will have come in contact with people that do!! :-)

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Post ID: @1rrm+1oNn6MNv

Get back to the office you whiners. Salaried in the plants have gone in all along. What makes you special?

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Post ID: @1ipj+1oNn6MNv

RTO is dead. The corporations are only just beginning to feeling it.

I'd be more concerned with quite quitting while in the office.

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Post ID: @1psn+1oNn6MNv

look at these workers already strategizing about skimping work...you lazys deserve to be canned....whats the fking difference between you sitting in you lazyboy and working vs some jerk in LCC countries....get the he-l out of here

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Post ID: @xst+1oNn6MNv

I am not going in. What are they going to do?

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Post ID: @buf+1oNn6MNv

If it is a requirement, I’ll go and plan B will kick in.

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Post ID: @fxv+1oNn6MNv

NO

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Post ID: @rzm+1oNn6MNv

I will go as infrequently as possible.

Unless I was working on a vehicle or in a lab, there wasn't really any benefit to being in the office. Everyone just sat at their desks logged into WebEx meetings. We rarely ever talked.

The only thing I miss is going out to lunch. We did do that. Now people just schedule meetings at lunch and I have to take my laptop into the kitchen with me.

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Post ID: @szl+1oNn6MNv

Nope.

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Post ID: @vpm+1oNn6MNv

I will have COVID repeatedly.

  • cough cough-
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Post ID: @xgm+1oNn6MNv

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