Thread regarding Ford layoffs

Inefficiency at Ford

Ford has way too many useless employees. They have no work to do when they are working from home. They are working on home projects and surfing the internet. Those who are on site are lazy, they only want more overtime. The older workforce are sitting around waiting for a buyout package. Leadership are creating more meetings, spreadsheets, and ppt to make themselves look important. It has been like this for many years. The company is headed for bankruptcy.

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Post ID: @OP+1oW5LdtB

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Inefficiency was brought on by leadership and their poor decisions. What I used to be able to do in a hour, with colleagues based in the US, can now take days. Outsourcing to LCC where they barely speak English and have no idea about our processes has been a major source of inefficiency. Broken English emails leave me frustrated and wondering what they are even asking. Sometimes, I just give up. A phone call is useless, as their spoken English is even worse. I had one guy tell me he didn't even know the functions of the part he was assigned! The inefficiency is not on my part - it's in the poor communication routes leadership has now established.

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Post ID: @9heh+1oW5LdtB

@OP. All the troubles at Ford start and end with the "leadership". Who controls the workload? Who is responsible to set goals and check the tasks? Who promotes the id--ts brownnosers, and layoffs the capable workers? Who creates silos, complexity and "kingdoms"? Who throws away the good solutions and implement the worst ones to save a penny and get a promotion? Who controls the accountability (lack of)? Who keeps their friends and relatives employed, even when they cannot do the work?

So don't come pi----g on the employees that are trying to reach a milestone, or trying to find another job, or copying with the stress of the layoffs.

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Post ID: @9zsk+1oW5LdtB

Much of what OP wrote is spot on but as a member of the older workforce.....

You're damn right I'm biding time to get my 30 or an early out. And I'll tell you something sonny, you would have walked out of this place if you had to bust your a$$ like we did over the past 3 decades.

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Post ID: @9jsh+1oW5LdtB

Elon Musk got it right when he ordered his team to return to office at least 40 hours per week or leave. Our leadership doesn’t come in, so why should the team? If Ford leadership wants to build a Ford team by calling it in, they are kidding themselves. No wonder all of these bad decisions are being made when everybody works together so poorly/inefficiently.

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Post ID: @9qqt+1oW5LdtB

Derp

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Post ID: @8vie+1oW5LdtB

OP sounds like a perfect example of what he is describing.

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Post ID: @1abg+1oW5LdtB

LOL @brw+1oW5LdtB there was more goofing off when everyone was in the office.
The people who wanted to get things accomplished were pressured to join in the walking clubs (2 hours a day), extended coffee breaks, long lunches, bar breaks, euchre games, standing fake meetings which were really social hours.. Then there were the office spies who parked themselves in cubicle after cubicle gathering intelligence for the LL, if you asked them to leave they would backstab you to the LL

At least with WFH you can avoid most of that BS

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Post ID: @1toe+1oW5LdtB

WFH studies can’t agree. Of course employers and employees don’t either. The fact is companies must attract and retain talent. When unemployment is high, companies are in the drivers seat. When it’s low, employees are in the drivers seat. If employers want to attract AND retain great talent, they must provide benefits that the employees are looking for in a company.

https://www.businessinsider.com/remote-work-wfh-productivity-impact-no-consensus-goldman-sachs-2023-8?amp

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Post ID: @1awg+1oW5LdtB

@1hrs - ur talking out of ur a-s. I’ve seen my fair share of 50+ group work their a-s off. Long hours, work through vacation and holidays.

Boomer gen is 57+, so u r including Gen x in ur comments. I’ve seen plenty of all generations work hard and/or slack.

If people have nothing to do, I blame that on mgmt. They r the ones who control workload.

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Post ID: @1mjk+1oW5LdtB

@1kzt+1oW5LdtB Sure, they might want more to come into the office, but they might be replaced by someone going into the office in Mexico. They can make whatever demands they want. Unless they are friends and family, any gains will be short lived.

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Post ID: @1yii+1oW5LdtB

If I can work from home, I’m willing to work for less because driving back and forth to an office is expensive and time-consuming.

So, if Ford demands that their employees come into an office, their employees will want to be paid for the extra time and expense.

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Post ID: @1kzt+1oW5LdtB

lol all the WFH is for the lazy boomers on here. Ya‘ll are the same lazy SOBs who sat around doing nothing all day in the office. The work ethic of a 50+ year old ford employee is pathetic.

“Hey so and so aren’t those GRCs so d-mb” proceeds to ask them to help set up their new iPhone and save a power point. Ford might survive once that generation dies out

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Post ID: @1hrs+1oW5LdtB

“ Studies by experts…” paid for by commercial real estate landlords, investors, their bankers and greedy governments looking for “revenue”.

Any information worker knows that all we do all day in an office is sit at a desk and attend WebEx meetings. It’s not like the old days. Even in-person meetings are mostly attended by video conference because you don’t have time to go from one meeting to the next, Ford doesn’t have enough meeting rooms, or there aren’t enough rooms big enough.

Any manager at Ford who thinks that his information workers are “collaborating” and not just sitting at their desks all day is living in the past and needs to retire.

Then there is the cost, not only the cost of the building to the company, but the extra cost of commuting to and from work by the employee. Going from working at home to commuting to an office is a big pay cut and adds 1-2 hours of “work” (commuting) to your day.

And what damage does all this needless commuting do to the environment? How many tons of CO2 need to be released into the atmosphere just so CRE investors can make a profit?

It’s true that many companies haven’t figured out how to manage a remote workforce, but that’s a problem of incompetent management. It’s a problem that puts a company at a distinct cost disadvantage.

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Post ID: @1nkv+1oW5LdtB

Ah yes, more "facts" based on nothing but suspicion.

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Post ID: @evu+1oW5LdtB

So true. I can testify to this.

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Post ID: @kdb+1oW5LdtB

Incorrect. Studies by experts have proven that working and collaborating together in a company office gets more work done and is of much benefit to a company's bottom line. This is fact.

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Post ID: @vwd+1oW5LdtB

It's obvious from seeing everyone hiding behind their cubicles and working from home.

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Post ID: @jce+1oW5LdtB

The performance review process is supposed to take care of this. At least that’s what they told us.

But they didn’t use it.

How many of those fired in the last couple of rounds had good performance reviews with no significant areas of performance improvement identified?

This is a management problem, not a work-from-home problem. Management needs to be clear in its directions and deadlines, e.g. “I need your review and comments of this specification by Wednesday.”

Without this sort of clarity, I assure you, it’s just as easy to goof off all day in an office as it is at home. The same quantity of goofing off is accomplished in either location, but at least when you’re at home, it’s more fun.

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Post ID: @ewq+1oW5LdtB

Time to return to office to shed some light on the deadwood. Poor leadership is letting wfh drag on way to long.

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Post ID: @brw+1oW5LdtB

DEI is the best

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Post ID: @ilj+1oW5LdtB

@OP: Thanks Captain Obvious.

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Post ID: @dct+1oW5LdtB

Thanks for those pearls of wisdom.

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