Recently came to know about an employee work in IT on fake identity. Wells has a situation where person who gave interview, person who joined the company and persons who actually doing the job are all three different person. IT consulting companies are carrying out this fraud and arranging all three persons and everyone get their share. This may sound like a far fetch but that’s the truth. They are able to operate because our background check is a joke, second because of remote work and third because we hate video calls. I am a big fan of remote work, it provides so much flexibility and work life balance plus don’t have to deal with office politics. But the downside is such frauds are happening.
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Won’t be surprise if some these fraud contractors became an employee.
https://www.thestaffingstream.com/2023/07/11/h-1b-staffing-trust-but-verify/
Article on staff company facing the same scenarios
Wow… this like an organize crime in the employment market. I know few small consulting companies were forging the resumes to get their candidate place so that they can good share but this is altogether different to hv another person working behind the seen.
Had similar situation with candidate hire for contract to hire role. Resume was awesome with 8+ years of experience and interview was really good but he was struggling to do basic stuff after joining. He came via preferred vendor so we complained him and we were told that there three other companies between them and actual employer of the candidate and no body did any background check on experience and this candidate was fresh college graduate with no experience. He managed to clear interview using proxy which was arrange by his employer.
@2tbp+1ob4nmPW - use the ethics line to report this. Review the process and be prepared with all the necessary detail before you make the call. For your safety, use a WF office phone - not one that can be traced to you.
Yes, dealt with similar situation at previous company when hiring contractors from India. That person was not the same person interviewed. Also had offshore on call in India and when a peer went to visit that call center in India, there was a woman working there. We did not hire any women at that time. She was sub contracted by that India team. Huge violation.
Not sure who to report within Wellsfargo but you can report to uscis. Because of this fraud guys are on some kind of work visa or they are using folk on work visa like H1B. Uscis is taking some serious action recently so report to them using this link.
https://www.uscis.gov/report-fraud/uscis-tip-form
How do we stop this? Anyway we can report this anonymously?
Apparently we have some fraudulent guys here who making sure that the total reaction is zero or negative. This prove that Wells Fargo has folks hiding behind the fake identity
I can totally see this happening especially with all the remote positions where everybody on the team, including the manager, has never met each other in person. On my last team (all remote) we didn’t use video for our team meetings and most of the people responded in the meetings by typing in the chat instead of talking. And most of them didn’t even have photos of themselves on their profiles. So who knows who’s really behind the profile of a fellow “team member”.
this is pretty common and not specific to wells fargo. Sadly it's humans exploiting other humans for profit... they pay someone else to do the job at less than they are getting paid and pocket the difference...
That's pretty funny, the CEO clearly faked his way into his role and can't do his job. And yet, he's still here.
@OP please gain a better grasp of the English language before you attempt to troll again.
We had similar issues with employees where resume looks awesome, interview well, candidate looks promising but after joining don’t perform well. They hv sorts of appointments during office hours. They don’t answer anything in the meeting but miraculously getting work done. When we asked them why they coded in certain way they couldn’t answer. Since we hire him as employee we had go thru performance plan and tons of HE red tapes to remove them. The whole process took over 6months. Ever since that we hire only contractor with contract to hire arrangement.
Even We had a similar situation. Candidate answer all questions and was very confident during interview but after joining whatever question we asked he would tell us that he will double check and let us know the next day. He couldnt do basic things. Eventually we fired him.
Yep. Had a similar situation happen in my group per-pandemic. The person who was hired was constantly on the phone and didn't seem to get much done during the day. Somehow, overnight, stuff would get done. It was rarely correct of what was asked for. Ultimately, the person stopped coming into the office and feigned some kind of illness to try to stay on the payroll. Turned out that the guy was doing the same thing at another company. It was sweet when he got caught and fired.
Next time when you hire from emerging countries, think what they will do to you.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/emerging-economies-pushing-end-dollars-050845451.html
We had a lot of issues with contractors (US) and India folks that would get hired and end up having no idea how to do the job. They eventually get canned. Poor screening and unscrupulous agencies inflating their skills
@jim+1ob4nmPW - read the post again. The fraudulent people are surviving because of the ignorance of people like you who can not accept the fact. Post clearly says the guy who is working is either expert in the field or getting someone from offshore to get the work done.
Every company has a 90 day evaluation period. If somebody faked their way into a job they aren't doing right, they're going to get canned in the 90 day period. Wells Fargo employees of all people know that they can and will be fired at any moment, so the notion of faking your way into a job and having that mean that now you're getting paid a salary for life is absurd. People who can't do their job get fired.
I don’t know how widespread this issue is, but even if only handful of people are involve I think it is still unfair that this fraudulent people are surviving and Hardworking people are getting laid off. Wells should put a stop to it. I will definitely share this will my manager and let him decide if he want to bring this is to HRs attention
I’ve heard about this too. In some cases the person does a video call but another person is answering the questions. Mainly with offshore resources.
This is not an offshore issue. They all work from only three locations plus they have crazy background check. This is an US issue where we do only criminal background check. People are forging their resume, arrange proxy for clearing interview and hire some one in india to do their job
Yes this is happening to FTEs now. Small IT consulting were doing this with contractors and arranging proxy for the interviews and all but now they are doing this with FTEs.
Is this an offshore issue? I have never heard this happening.
I know this used to happen with contractors. (I've not heard of it happening with FTE's.) Some of the agency's had to put guardrails in place to make sure that the person who did the interview was the person who actually showed up to do the job.
What are you going to do about it?
A friend of mine told me to at they found out something similar with one of their teammates. They reported this to HR. HR not only fired that employee but made everyone update their pic on their workday profile and made video conferencing compulsory for team meetings, 1:1 meetings, townhalls
Two were happing since last decade where guys do did the interview and guy who joins the company and work are different people or guy who did the interview and join the company has someone at offshore to do this work or guy who did the interview also works but have someone else join the company. Last one is more prevalent with H1B guys who can’t legally do multiple jobs so they have their citizen friend join the company
I can see this can be happening to my team as well…all my team members are working from different locations, we hire candidate just after one audio interview and we never do video conferencing.
I can see this happening with two different people, especially offshore. Three is more difficult to make sense of.