Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

About some Cisco UK posts

I no longer visit this site (never used to do that much anyway). This is my first post here and possibly the last one as I am fairly sure this will get voted down. Not sure how things work here.

I have seen several, recurring posts against Cisco UK targeting certain individuals. I am ex-Cisco UK, worked there till about a year ago. I am not a long time career Cisco person, worked there for a few years only. Thought I'd get my input in while I have some "sick" time at present. I do not know what the situation there is right now. But I can tell you a few things from experience and from my interactions with certain individuals who catered to these mindsets:

  1. If we sign a professional contract with a company then we are obliged to follow the company directions, rules of engagement defined by our management and lastly, and very importantly: the code of professionalism. Loyalty, be that within the constraints of our contracts, is of primary importance in a professional environment. And that extends beyond the remit of any role - company brand name protection is something that is a responsibility of every employee. So, if you don't like your management, SED, SEM etc. and think you are any good, then just move - either internally or externally. Why moan, and complain and abuse people on anonymous forum? That's just unproductive and a negative response to a situation allegedly negative by your own account. Two negatives give a positive only in maths. In reality, that just adds to the pain.
  1. I never encountered any personnel in my direct management at Cisco UK who I would complain about in an anonymous forum. In my experience, all my managers ranged between very good and inexperienced (not necessarily bad). The couple of SEDs I worked under, including the current one, were great, supportive and totally on the ball.
  1. Cisco UK went through several unprecedented business challenges while I was there, the biggest one stemming from the fallout of Brexit. The Public Sector investment suffered immensely from continual political and economic challenges as the uncertainties dragged on through years. That impacted general business, in PubSec, commercial and enterprise. Given that, we did make amazing numbers out of that zone and I hit the Champions.
  1. A lot has been posted about the SED. Let me tell people that I have never before worked with anyone in management who took the trouble to reaching out to people couple of rungs below him and encourage them to chase their passion, pay for third party certificates or encouraged them to get engaged in non-revenue generating research projects inside of the company. In my opinion, the SED UK&I was given a poisoned chalice when he came over and he managed admirably given the pandemic and post-pandemic situation.

Yes, there are stuff that could be improved but most of those are not a Cisco UK specific problem, those are industry wide problems as can be seen today by even the blind.

Why did I leave Cisco UK? Well, I was bored for the last 7-8 months of my tenure, had gone through some horrid personal experiences related to my family in the previous year or so (during which time my management and Cisco supported me amazingly) that had me down perpetually for the time being, had a few uninvited conversations with my new manager which threw some doubts and uncertainties in my mind about my future there and as hard as I tried, I could not find an internal role to move to at that point in time. Yes, there were some very important people (at the level of GMs and SVPs) inside of Cisco who reached out to me and asked me to stay and I am so flattered and grateful for that!

In summary, I'd say that Cisco, to my experience, is the best employer I have ever worked for and yes, I'd work for them again.

For anyone who is whining and complaining here about Cisco UK org: try and be a professional yourself first, adhere to work place sanctity, have some respect for discipline at work and fellow professionals. If you are in the right, you can always pull in HR (ineffective as that will be) if you really notice something amiss or poor at work concerning management. If you wish to be a rebel, by all means, be one, but the corporate world is likely not for you.

Peace.

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Yeah thanks, basically what you’re saying is that a lot of people on this forum be idjiots. You’re probably right.

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Post ID: @3gnt+1ogHFFC7

I am the OP and thanks to everyone who supported my comments. Came to visit this site after a while, out of curiosity, as I recover from Covid and had some quiet, bored time on hand. I was aghast after a search on the UK org. The amount of vitriol against VP/SED, hiring process, diversity - nothing has been spared by some people. These are just wrong! No place is perfect but, IMHO, the "human face" of Cisco takes the cake, even now and most of the real issues (not the ones ranted upon by some) are industry wide, as shown by serial layoffs by many non-Cisco outfits during the last few months (and more to come). People should learn to count their blessings, and work on their skill sets (if they really have as much time on their hands as it appears) related to upcoming plethora of tech (whichever ones take their fancy) to bullet proof their careers instead of wasting time (of which they seem to have too much of) spouting abuses at management, coworkers and like. A far better option would be to move on and live a healthier, calmer life.

Peace be with everyone.

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Post ID: @1xzh+1ogHFFC7

This is one of the few balanced posts I have read here and I agree with the comments and observations. If you don’t like what you see then move on in your career. Regardless of what a lot of folk here seem to think the role of Cisco is to generate profits and shareholder value so that we could get paid monthly.
I was LRd this year after 18 years. I needed to get out and move on, I was leaving without a payout sooner or later and I didn’t fit to what Cisco needed and it didn’t fit me. If I needed to carry on working I would have learned new additional skills and got a new role in or out of Cisco. I have moved on in my career and my head I have always thought that others should do as well.

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Post ID: @1dap+1ogHFFC7

There are good and informative posts here but you have to deal with about a 20:1 ratio of personal problems, completely made up stuff and tired "19" and "____ is closing" jokes that apparently never get old for some people. I'll get voted down, too, it's just the nature of many of those who frequent this place.

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