Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

The major problem I have with RTO is the lack of a primary work space, nasty bathrooms, lousy coffee, and expensive food. More than thing, the commute in traffic causes more stress than any benefit of collaborating. It is worst than before COVID and people are distracted and reckless. I hate it.

Been said many times but humans gathered together in person will accomplish more and faster than if spread out remotely and conversing virtually.

But the catch is that a lot of positions at WF don't require much of anything to be accomplished and with any expediency. Why force RTO for low-producing, low-demanding roles? Why force RTO for so many unmotivated workers?

Anyone here complaining about RTO is simply unhappy and doesn't believe in what they are expected to do for WF. That is ok! Now find a new job and move on!

RTO affects productivity all week long. Aside from getting up 2 hours earlier and spending over 2 hours on the road three days a week, the rest of the week is fatigue and brain fog. All motivation to do anything but the bare minimum for this company is gone. Don’t have the time or energy for a job search. Add in the resentment over people who happen to live 2 miles further away keeping WFH, added costs and wear and tear on my vehicle, and you can be sure that I am doing everything I can to slow down productivity and defer anyone I know/meet from doing business here. In the end, was RTO really worth it, Charlie?

@wuz+1oh650pJ

Agreed on all fronts. With each passing day I am LESS accepting of RTO, not more, mainly because every single day I go in serves as more evidence that it's a complete waste of time and money. There has not been a single positive thing about it in the 18 months I've been doing it. F Hudson Yards, every last one of those useless ivory tower POSs. Their apologists can su-k it also. Traitors, all.

I suppose not all departments allow employees to operate the same, but if you aren't actively using some sort of coping mechanism to get through each day while employed here you are part of the problem.

For me it was reducing my availability, removing the "loyal" label who'll just take on anything given to me, eliminating anything I used to do out of obligation yet not required, etc.

Totally not a one-size-fits-all approach but somehow I would image those of us most unhappy are high performers that fully understand that each day is a gut punch. I try throwing a few punches back, still fighting but now for myself instead of the company.

Clearly I am long overdue to find work elsewhere, yet until a better opportunity arises, game on!

Every morning I have to go into the office, the same thing happens. My alarm rings. I turn if off and I say, "man I hate WF," followed by, "this is so f'ing stupid." Then I get up, get ready and drive to an office where I don't know anyone and don't speak to anyone. That's how I begin every day I'm forced into the office. And when I arrive at the office, all of this negativity hasn't suddenly gone away. I'm not excited to give my best to WF. I'm still angry and resentful and my productivity suffers. But whatever - they reap what they sow. They can fix it or not.

I know leadership thinks everyone will just "get over" this. But I know I won't until I don't have to do it anymore. (Quit, Retirement or Displacement - whichever comes first.)

@dzu+1oh650pJ
"My manager wrote in my performance review that I need to trust my managers."

Exactly how we got all the scandals that led to the creation and continuation of the asset cap. Any manager who says you need to blindly trust management is literally one of the kind of managers that is engaging in wrongdoing as their standard course of business.

The company is in trouble and I'm glad I got my severance this summer, but feel bad for all my work that's been wasted and ignored, and for my coworkers texting me about how much worse it is now that they have even more work to do with fewer people left.

My manager wrote in my performance review that I need to trust my managers. But trust is not something they can force upon us, trust is something they need to earn, hello. Many of my coworkers agreed that it is extremely dangerous to blindly trust our managers and executives in this corrupt organization. I don't see any transparency anywhere, all I see is nothing but deception. My fellow colleagues, watch your back. Do not trust what they "say", but trust what you see them "do".

Decades of study after study (pre covid19) showed that those allowed to work remotely were on average noticeably more productive than in office. Yes there are some bad apples that do better in the office than not AND there are some who prefer to be in office rather than at home.

The productivity increase doesn't remain when having to return back to office. Loyalty takes a hit. Work-life balance. Add to that the distrust we as employees have with regards to senior leadership, another productivity decrease.

At home if you have a task that takes time to complete after executing it, you can do a quick chore; grab a healthy low cost snack; take a sip of water that isn't touched by dozens of people a day; go to your own bathroom with your own privacy and not have to deal with other peoples... well you know. At work, you get to twiddle your thumbs, thinking about the other things you need to get done when you get home.

Many of us put in the time over the decades to be trusted enough to be allowed to remote work (well before covid), and suddenly we are required to return like everyone else. It shows a lack of concern, trust, compassion, from leadership whom we all know are lying when the say we are better when we collaborate together.

What they are doing isn't capitalism. WFH is cheaper/more efficient and would also slash a lot of headcount. We've got a lot of people doing things related to housing employees. A ton of them could "go" if we had half our workforce WFH like it should be.

Great article but it will have zero impact. Corporate America is a modern colonial system. The rulers don't give a damn what the ruled think. You should be glad they are willing to pay you so little for demanding so much instead of paying someone else less for demanding more.

The current path of ultra-capitalism is unsustainable.

Quite Quitting will take its toll on things. Fuuuuck Charlie

"Move Fast, Break Things". They have mastered the second part.

This current regime is definitely not going to be the subject of any textbooks on positive or effective organizational leadership. Our leadership has all but declared war on the US based employees.

Great article. The last point in the "trust index" mentioned in the article about "senior leadership being trusted by employees" is our main issue. There is no transparency around so many issues but mostly RTO (tracking, requirements, etc) that it's hard to trust most things we are told.

It sometimes feels like senior leaders are just playing a giant game of "gotcha!" just to cut headcount. So of course productivity might suffer if trust is lost.